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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

-10000000 social credit score

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Crazy thought: What if both platforms are bad?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If you cannot host it, you cannot own it. If you cannot own it, it's not resistant to censorship.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

And this here is the exact reason im on lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml: Comment removed for rule 1. Banned from all communities.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I knew someone would mention it but on lemmy if youre banned from one instance you can just use the other 200 instances

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Aye of course, just poking fun that it's not always free from the same bullshit here too!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes imperialism is violent and hypocritical. Kinda 101. Strange to see so many apologists for this kind of censorship on Lemmy. Lib brainwashing plus state religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sorry can you elaborate? Are you saying this post is apologetic of the Chinese platform’s censorship? I took it to be critical of both.

Edit: nevermind I see all the apologists in this thread now. And it’s also fair to criticize the OP for casually comparing the two platforms as if they are equally evil.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Has Lemmy just been completely flooded with CCP apologists now?

RedNote ToS includes provisions that require you to post "correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture".

I guess if you believe Taiwan should be "returned" to the mainland, Uhghurs deserve to be "re-educated" and enslaved, and that China is the natural and rightful pre-eminant global power... you're gonna be fine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

RedNote ToS includes provisions that require you to post "correct views on history, nationality, state, or culture

Tankies got all their canned responses with links to do their every chance they get. I wonder if there is a central repository for this

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mostly no (I hope), we’re just laughing at americans literally not being able to read anything soaked with propaganda and switching from one source to another.

Ccp apologists can suck Winnies dick

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

we’re just laughing at americans literally not being able to read anything soaked with propaganda

All Americans? Everything they read?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure Lemmy has always been full of people who support freedom of speech, open internet, internationalism, anti-censorship, etc.

It's got nothing to do with "apologizing" for some state targeted by this wacko genocidal empire.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, been that way from the start and is made by them.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I took it as "don't pretend we don't have censorship too"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's false equivalence though, although with the election of shadow president Musk it's getting a bit more hazy.

Even so, one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government dictating what speech is allowed.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

one is an (admittedly hugely influential) private company and the other is the actual single-party government

The US has been governed by public-private partnerships for centuries. Trying to draw a line between the industry administrators that get promoted into every crevice of public sector bureaucracy and the elected politicians who depart office to serve as lobbyists and board members of private firms is a fool's errand.

Do we celebrate Chris Dodd the Senator and denounce Chris Dodd the chairman of and chief lobbyist for the MPAA? Do we applaud Hank Paulson the Treasury Secretary and denounce Hank Paulson the CEO of Goldman Sachs?

Americans seem to have no trouble drawing a straight line between Singapore-incorporated ByteDance and the Chinese Communist Party. Why can't they see the connection between Howard Lutnick or Linda McMahon or Betsy DeVos or Elaine Chao and the businesses they own and operate?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (13 children)

When all of the companies do it and they do as they are told by daddy Sam... What is the difference.

The only difference I see is that they don't send you to gulag in US unless you really make some dear leader life uncomfortable.

Americans still do a lot of self censorship. Anything Israel related gets modded into shot on normie socials.

Luigi is prolly best example... They are suppressing that across all media, fake news and social... How is this different from shepoohs bullshit?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Saying "there is censorship here" in no way implies "there is not censorship there"

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean you should do it but not out of spite, or to be hurtful, but to give people the freedom to choose.

And to do that, they need to know what their government was up to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should we be making a large effort to spread the word of better options to people? I feel like the discoverability of social networks (like this one) has gone way down, and a lot of people would like somewhere to doomscroll that isn't shit, but just aren't aware of other places/apps.

Certainly may not help that setting up LemmyWorld on my phone involved a pinned website app, something I'm guessing a lot of people haven't done before.

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