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[–] [email protected] 175 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (21 children)

Looking at the numbers in Canada, the Conservative party would make us believe that car theft is at a level never seen before but the truth is there were proportionally more cars stolen back in the 70s, 80, 90s and sometimes even more cars stolen than now in actual numbers with less cars on the road.

I know it's gonna sound completely crazy but... Maybe it's going up because the economic conditions at the moment make some people desperate and no matter if cars were keyless or not, the same thing would have happened? 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Could anyone with more knowledge confirm, but couldn't they just do what some car companies are doing and have a system by which you can just disable keyless entry when it's parked up at night?

If I'm at home and my car is parked up where the key could potentially be repeated then I just disable it by locking the car using the key and tapping on the door handle, which disables just tapping the door handle to unlock it again, and only the unlock button on the key works. As far as I understand it resolves this issue, unless I'm missing something?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That won't work for human reasons: few people will remember to lock the car that way at night-

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (5 children)

It's always been vulnerable, but dismissed because common criminals didn't have access to required tools and the technical know-how to defeat common keyless entries. But things has changed and many entities start selling tools on the cheap to defeat keyless system such as flipper zero flashed with honda rf capture, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A device disguised as a games console - known as an “emulator” - is being exploited by thieves to steal vehicles within 20 seconds by mimicking the electronic key.

Police facing a spate of keyless car thefts in many neighbourhoods are closing some cases in less than 24 hours even when CCTV footage is available.

Jaguar Land Rover announced a £10m investment last November to upgrade security for commonly stolen models for cars built between 2018 and 2022.

The Observer investigation reveals other vehicles with similar security loopholes, with Hyundai confirming this weekend it working “as a priority” to prevent an attack on its cars by criminals “using devices to illegally override smart key locking systems”.

An article by Stephen Mason, a barrister specialising in electronic evidence and communication interception, in Computer Law and Security Review in April 2012 warned keyless systems could be “successfully undermined” and unless manufacturers improve the design cars would be stolen without forced entry.

Mike Hawes, SMMT Chief Executive, said: “Car makers continuously introduce new technology to stay one step ahead of criminals.


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