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The Duff CEO with a Windows-Logo on his forehead: "Gamers use Windows because of its' user experience not our de facto monopoly."

Next Image: Duff CEO with Windows-Logo in front of a "Out of Business" sign. Subtitle: "30 minutes after SteamOS is released"

Edit: Yo, I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I just want to say that Windew's UX sucks ass.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Microsoft has a monopoly on gaming it’s not because they’ve made an effort to build one. It’s just that MacOS and Linux have never been actual competition. Linux because the user base was so small that making games for it was a big financial risk. SteamOS devices could change this but I doubt it.

And Apple just wont put the effort in for some reason. I’m sure they could make a huge dent on the market, as every iPhone and iPad with Apple silicon are pretty capable of running modern AAA games with a few tweaks, as are their computers. But they just won’t invest in making porting easier and cheaper and refuse to pay more devs to bring their games to the platform or to build a proper gaming division to support them. I’m convinced that Tim Cook just thinks gaming is for losers and doesn’t want it associated with the brand in any way.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (33 children)

Always had windows. Never wanted Linux because I didn’t want to dick around with every game install. You give me an OS that lets me browse and game WITHOUT having to dick around with every application, and I’d switch in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's actually gotten a lot better over the last few years; Valve has been putting in a lot of work into making gaming "just work" through Steam. It's still a bit jank, but honestly all OSes are a bit jank.

If anyone in this thread is interested, I'd recommend giving Linux Mint a go. There's nothing really to lose.

Anyway, I'm done shilling Linux so I'll let you get back to your Simpsoning. :P

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There’s nothing really to lose.

Just hours of your time as some random miniscule feature you were reliant upon without realizing it until it was missing, then have to look up a dozen different fixes using some stone aged console commands, none of which actually fix your issue...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is my current experience with pop os. Took a while searching and digging through age old threads to figure out how to fix Rivals so it actually launches, then more searching to fix an issue I was having with the screen blacking out, and it's going to be more searching to figure out why audio keeps tearing while I'm full screened. It's a pain trying to make things compatible, so much so I'm extremely tempted to switch back to Windows 10 despite it hitting EOL this year. I really don't like having to waste my personal time making something work when there's an incredibly easy alternative where everything works always (aside from hardware issues)

Edit: especially peeved about trying to fix ffxiv. I want my shaders back >:(

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Good news, then!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meh the Linux conversation has been going on as long as I remember and windows is still king. But Linux can play games now so who knows where the wind will blow.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least we didn't have to look at goddamn Ads in the menu. Also the AI """integration""" fucked up things pretty badly. Sometime you just need a simple, light, OS to do your thing.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is the main problem right now.

People want to return to a lighter simple Windows OS, but Microsoft is making that increasingly hard to access. The LTSC version of Windows 10 is close(No AI, No Ads, and minimal telemetry that can be disabled), but they dont sell it to the public unless you buy 5 copies, and ~~there is no LTSC version of Windows 11 yet.~~ looks like they finally released it a couple months back, but people are unhappy with it.

Linux offers an alternative, but compatibility is still a huge issue despite the impressive gains Wine and Proton have made in the last few years.

The reality is that if you have a Windows PC you can basically guarantee that you can install anything you might want(barring hardware limitations). You can often make that software work on Linux too, but there is always some tinkering involved and the general public doesn't want to deal with that, nor do they want to change to a FOSS alternative.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

In what world? The steam deck is almost 3 years old, Windows is still on top and it's not even close

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Market share moves slowly.

Windows enshittification made me look if Linux had become a viable alternative.

Got a Steam Deck to try it out and was very impressed by how far it’s come.

When my Win10 desktop needs replacement in a year or 2, getting a Linux desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I saw that after my first comment, I'm still not really sure how this is supposed to mean the death of Windows. Another mobile PC device running SteamOS isn't going to disrupt Window's position (though it is of course nice to see more handhelds on the market running the OS), and Valve saying they'll soon release a user-installable beta is nowhere near what some are making it out to be. People are acting like they just released a stable Linux distro meant to replace your main OS; the news is exciting, but it's not the death of Windows, at least not for a long while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The idea is that the deck is not a one off and as more devices come to run SteamOS specifically developers will take note.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

No one said it'll be the death of windows altogether, the meme and comments are saying it may be the death of windows for dedicated gaming rigs (meaning handheld pc gaming devices and dedicated desktop gaming pcs)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

SteamDeck was also not a replacement for your gaming rig's OS. SteamOS is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No SteamOS is not a replacement for your gaming rig. The recent steamOS beta release is specifically for hardware manufactures that aren't in the powered by steamOS program to test their HANDHELD hardware as well as users with non powered by SteamOS handhelds to test steamOS on their handhelds.

There has been a lot of people taking this as SteamOS releasing a linux distro for desktop gamers but thats not the case. I hope one day that will be the case but today its not and people jumping the gun will leave with a terrible linux experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I dont think a desktop flavor is far off at all. Plus, they backed Arch, which is upstream from SteamOS and Bazzite. No matter which way you slice it, this is a massive win for Linux gaming and accessibility for many reasons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Small correction: Bazzite's upstream is Fedora.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Does steam deck not run Steam OS..? What the Deck was meant to do is irrelevant, the OS it comes with and the OS mentioned in the OP in no way shut Windows down

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think you're kind of right. For now anyway.

It won't make any difference until Valve releases SteamOS for general consumption on more than a handful of handhelds

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What exactly do you do on your PC my friend?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not really sure why it's relevant to this conversation? But mainly game, homework, and 3d modeling stuff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I assume you grew up having an Xbox?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure where that assumption comes from, or again it's relevance to the conversation, but I had a couple platforms growing up. Most of them were hand me downs. My earlier childhood was spent on a PlayStation 2, and my teen years were shared between the 360, Wii, and my shitty laptop.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure, but the real goal is to get gamers off of Windows. We dont give a shit what the corpos use. SteamOS has a massive possibility to do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like we're having two different conversations.

The OP is acting like as soon as people "have the option" to switch to something else, they will, and Windows will be dead. SteamOS, however, has been a thing for a couple years now, and easily configurable Linux distributions for even longer, so saying that Windows is dead 30 minutes after release isn't really wishful thinking, it just... Didn't happen.

Your argument is that SteamOS has potential to upset the gaming OS market, which I'm not at all disagreeing with.

My comments had nothing to do with "what corpos use", I'm talking about Steam's user statistics. Over 90% of steam users are on Windows, and that's with the incredibly popular Steam Deck taken into consideration.

Let it be clear that I'm not at all a Windows fanboy, I fucking hate the OS. I use it because I'm too lazy to set up Linux, and a few games I play are known to not work. Something SteamOS can change, but not something it already has.

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