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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As if any of the other social media networks aren't doing the same shit. I'd rather have China spy on me than an American company. They can't use my data to fuck me over.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 days ago (42 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"It's okay that the CCP pushes propaganda because billionaires do it too" - Tiktok defenders

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

This article from 2024 gives a pretty good rundown as to why using this reasoning to ban Tiktok will set a very bad precedent:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/14/1251086753/tiktok-ban-first-amendment-lawsuit-free-speech-project-texas

If the govt cared about your data privacy, they would create data collection regulations that they could then use to ban tiktok if/when they violate them.

Disclaimer: I am not saying Tiktok is a great app with zero issues. This is a concern about causing long term problems by using a short term easy solution.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I found it interesting that this Tiktok regulation talk hit peak fervor around the time that youths were using tiktok to fully grasp the severity of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. Meanwhile mainstream corporate media was painting a very different and dishonest story of the genocide.

We need broad regulation for social media in the US, not cherry picked fervor for political reasons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was the catalyst that made them realize they didn't have the sway to control the narrative on tik Tok and that they had to destroy it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Problem is that insta also had the same content and plenty of folks saw it there too but the focus was on Chinese influence.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Americans complaining about other countries meddling in their affairs is such a hilarious hypocrisy. You guys have been the worst for ruining other countries around the world.

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

All American social networks are also spyware

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Good luck criticizing a user’s choice of platform hoping to get them to leave. I’m just happy to see one less corporate platform.

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“What’s not safe about jumping rope? Everybody jump’s rope.”

“It’s not jumping rope that’s the problem, it’s the train tracks.”

“I think I’m smart enough to know if a train is coming. It’s not like the train is coming for me specifically. I’m not that important. I don’t have anything valuable enough for the train to take from me anyw-“ splat

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Those are valid criticisms, but can equally be applied to all of the rest of our main social media platforms.

I’m not seeing a big difference here between TikTok and YouTube except that one is not able to be influenced or backdoored by the US government and the other is.

In essence the optics here look an awful lot like the US simply doesn’t like other nations mining their citizens data that they want for themselves, and having foreign control of the type of news being fed by their algorithm.

Just remember that before Snowden dropped a dime on the NSA, similar suspicions sounded pretty wacky too

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

But… US companies are allowed to sell the data of citizens to other countries? Do they want some taxes before they give arbitrary your info that is literally unusable for anything aside from customizing ads

This argument bleeds from so many wounds! With how much could have Cuckerberg bribe both parties?

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (14 children)

In this house, we only like propaganda that's covering up genocide. /s

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i like my all-american freedom and liberty data collection and propaganda

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

FreeDumb™️

[–] [email protected] 213 points 3 days ago (11 children)

The last panel applies to every other social media, just replace the spying country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are multiple instances pushing propaganda and most data can just be scraped by bots. It may be harder, but capitalism finds a way.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

The last panel also hurts us - fellow non-americans :(

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Right? Now do Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That last part is becoming less and less relevant .... someone is spying but it isn't for the benefit or under the control of a country. More and more, the spying is meant more for the purposes of commerce and finance, for money and control. For business interests which is what major governments mainly represent.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

At this point, the line between business and government in the US is almost non-existent, so definitely still a government using your data for the propaganda machine.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

And it doesn't matter who or why, either - as soon as someone hoards other people's data, someone else will try to steal it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

And as soon as the government wants it, most companies hand it right over.

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