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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know there's a fancy name for these arguments but I dont recall them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean that flow chart fails to disprove god through the circular discussion on free-will. If you want to argue logic in the discussion about if God cannot create a world with free-will but also without evil then he is not all powerful. But those ideas are opposed to each other. No matter the amount of power, making evil non-existent takes away a component of free-will. Could a creation god create a world that does not have a god? The question is paradoxical.

Not a defense of faith but a disapproval of this particular argument against it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Isn't that an argument against an all powerful God though? That if God were all powerful, that they can do literally anything, that they could create a world such that there was free will and no evil.

If God cannot create such a world then God cannot be all powerful. Just because we cannot imagine what that world would look like wouldn't limit an all powerful God from creating it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This flow chart assumes god isn’t evil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Logical explanation:

"Don't you know there ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk." - Tom Waits

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Love Tom Waits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This comment assumes that someone other than God has the moral authority to define evil. If God doesn't define evil, then who does? If I say what God does is wrong and therefore evil, what am I really saying? Aren't I judging God? I dont even have the authority to judge other men, let alone God. If I had the authority to judge God, then between the two of us, which one of us is really God?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

God knew men would eat of the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Thus, giving man the ability to judge good and evil.

According to scholar Nathan French, the term likely means "the knowledge for administering reward and punishment," suggesting that the knowledge forbidden by Yahweh and yet acquired by the humans in Genesis 2–3 is the wisdom for wielding ultimate power.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That might be a branch off the "why didn't he?" box.