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Sinners - Irish Demonization? (feddit.nl)

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Just watched Sinners

Can anyone enlighten me on why they picked on Irish immigrants? Did blues get coopted by Irish historically?

I don't get it

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

He was literally the personification of the Devil. How is that casting not picking on them?

They literally made him more evil than the KKK

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

He was consumed by the devil. He was hollowed out and dehumanized by being forcefully assimilated. He's making a futile attempt to save himself by bringing in Sammie when in fact he's already lost his soul.

He can perform the music and art of his culture, but it's not for the sake of his heritage or to bring people together in community. It's to fill an emptiness within himself brought about by the vampire that turned him.

He was made into a monster, forced into living a half life, convinced that he can undo the harm done to him by harming others.

I don't see him as the personification of the devil so much as a casualty of the devil.

You see in the movie that the other people who become vampires act in ways they wouldn't otherwise.

His Irish heritage wasn't vilified and at no point did a character conflate his heritage with his villainous acts.

The rest of the cast were wary of him more because he was white in a space for people of color.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but they also made him really cool and charismatic and he absolutely killed it on the Irish folk songs, while the KKK were just some fat white doofuses. Like, clearly the Irish vampire gets more respect here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't follow that logic at all. They made him evil.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Good bit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ryan Coogler also made black panther, with killmonger, a sympathetic villain who was cool while being evil. Same principal imo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He wasn't cool. He was evil.

Cool and evil are mutually exclusive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Did you read what I wrote? Kilmonger was cool and had a sympathetic backstory. Nevertheless, he also killed people. Definitely not mutually exclusive

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Fictional evil characters are extremely popular in media.

Jack O'Connell is a talented, conventionally attractive man and his character was powerful, charismatic, and compelling.

He was supernaturally evil and that evil wasn't tied to him being Irish. He was depicted as more sympathetic than the KKK who sought to kill out of hate instead of a supernatural compulsion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

I mean, IDK how else to explain it...the logic is that he's cool as hell?