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The ethnic cleansing argument is as tired for Ukrainians in Ukraine, as it is for Russians in Ukraine (and Russians in Georgia). It's a show put on for liberal international political discourse and nothing more. The "self-defense" forces in the DNR went on to ethnically cleanse Romani's in the same way that the Ukrainian Nazi gangs in Kyiv did.
This is such a tired trope and simply used by whoever wants to add moral weight to their POV. There aren't significant meaningful differences between perpetrators, their behaviors and frankly their ideology here.
Ok nerd, you're right. Those Russians were (allegedly) no angels. I guess they just need to accept the ethnic cleansing.
The lib russophobia here is off the charts.
Even if what you said is true, which it is not (see Formerlyfarman's comment), whether or not Ukraine was trying to ethnically cleanse the Donbas prior to the SMO (which it was), and regardless of the virtues or crimes of the people's militias, none of that matters as far as what I was saying. None of that has any bearing on the asymmetry of war crimes perpetrated by Ukraine vs the lack of them committed by Russia.
Then why did you say it?
None of what you said matters with respect to my initial comment. I said what I did because it is what happened and provides context. Your altering of that context (by making up falsehoods) still didn't change the point of my comment. And just a tip: it doesn't help your credibility to ask the people you're disagreeing with to walk you through the basics of how discussions work.
I'm just trying to figure out where the goal posts are.
They're nice and stationary where they've always been. You don't seem to know where the field is.
This is bullshit. The Ukrainians brought ISIS guys from Syria to help in the ethnic cleansing. And the Georgian government was ethnically cleansing the ossetians.
These are not equivalent.
A regime that has caníbal lunatics running around massacring villagers(Ukraine, Syria) is not equivalent to militias formed to defend themselves from being eaten alive.
holds up a bizzaro world mirror Putin importing ebil Norf Koreas attacking my hecking NAFO doggos.
Yeah the Russo-Georgian war was fought because Poland was trying ot get an accelerate NATO MAP for Georgia in April of 2008. The Russians claimed a genocide kill count of 2000 in August at the start of the hot war. The Ossetians claimed 500. The hot war lasted 1 month. In December of 2008 the MoJ came up with 162 bodies, and no actual physical or circumstantial evidence. Then they stopped talking about it forever. I dare you to find any actual evidence.
It's a pain in the ass to search anything in the internet. The ISIS connection was common knowledge a few years ago, it was all over the western press, they were heavily praising it, it went on for over a decade. But this is a more recent article. https://thecradle.co/articles/russia-warns-washington-sending-isis-fighters-to-ukraine
there was apparently Ukrainian support on the recent ISIS takeover of Syria.
And yes the Georgians were trying to invade ossetians and wipe them out. But Russia luckily intervened quickly.
Hello CIA? Yeah your guys are here.
Again there's one bajillion North Koreans sneaking into Kyiv right now, click here to donate.
Yeah if only they hired this guy, then they'd have the proof.
Damn I hope the fascist rhetoric you're referencing wasn't some kind of projection of their own crimes. That would only make entirely too much sense and be consistent with everything we know about them.