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I’m so happy this other large company which wants to embed itself as a storefront and soak up fees won against the other large company which was already doing it.
Like, genuinely I am, but Epic isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. Epic/Sweeney is mostly sad they didn’t have the monopoly first.
ask any game dev if they're happy Epic won this battle? If they say no then they've never tried to release a game on a marketplace. This is a huge win for developers.
I am a dev. I said I’m glad they won. Epic still sucks, though.
so am i. And I'll agree epic sucks in some ways, sweeney in more, but they also provide a relatively awesome toolset. i think epic has gotten a lot of undue hate just for having a marketplace seperate from steam - but steam has been exploiting devs for a long ass time too.
It’d be easier to side with Epic if they put really any effort at all into the Epic Games Store. I know there’s a lot of features to catch up on to be competitive to Steam, but considering they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on exclusivity, you’d think they would spend more on improving EGS.
To some extent, people will hate EGS anyway, but if they just quietly trucked along adding feature after feature, those that use it would spread the word. Instead, it largely stagnated and people kept reporting to others that it generally still sucks.
Playing catch-up takes time but at least the company that does already has an enumerated list of features to implement and can glean ideas about how to do so.
Now Epic can finally install their own payment system, bypassing Apple’s parental controls, and little Timmy can just enter the details from mommy’s credit card when Epic gets him addicted to ~~gambling~~ loot boxes.
Such a win for consumers.
We have laws to protect children, no other companies: we need laws that hit hard companies that don't respect people (and other companies)'s rights.
Hahaha, good one.
In the US? That’s not going to happen. The US is run by corporations.
What a dumb bar to judge them by. Not a single entity with an interest in fighting this fight would be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts
They did a good thing but I still get to judge them for ultimately being greedy.
Who cares? It's a win for everyone.
Biggest disappointment is that it took a rich twat to twist the government's arm and do what should've done 10 years ago.
Give Tim Sweeney lots of money? Why would the government do that?
...why would anyone do that?
I mean, it's what you're celebrating.
You can make some vague claims that it's going to be good for small businesses and independent developers... but realistically it's only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.
I don't even know what money you're talking about. Hard to celebrate that.
...you mean Apple? No. It will benefit literally everyone else.
... do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There's tons of others... like Epic.
At least you admit to your ignorance, that's the first step to actually knowing what the hell you're talking about :)
The only business who is losing anything here is Apple.
Literally anyone else, including your solo dev kid cousin, who just made his first game, wins from this
No just one of the most profitable in the world.
I know exactly what I'm talking about. I just don't know what you're talking about.
Epic is not successful? They’re a privately held company with a valuation of like $32 billion. They are the developers of Fortnite, and like 75% of all console/PC video games are built in their engine.
I guess my question is how the fuck do you define successful then?
Well. Being profitable would be a good start.
They’re a privately held company, so afaik don’t have to release public earnings statements.
If you’re talking about the financials made public as a part of the Apple v Epic lawsuit, I’m pretty sure they just show that Epic Game Store isn’t profitable, not that Epic isn’t profitable.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/five-years-after-it-took-on-steam-epic-games-store-is-yet-to-make-a-penny-of-profit
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/11/07/tim-sweeneys-epic-games-store-is-still-losing-money-after-five-years/
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-epic-games-store-still-isnt-profitable-nearly-five-years-after-launch
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/6/23949372/the-epic-games-store-still-isnt-profitable
https://www.techradar.com/gaming/consoles-pc/the-epic-games-store-isnt-profitable-after-five-years-growth-is-still-epics-goal