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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy Pride :3)
Followup to this bit of news: 'Natasha Lyonne addresses backlash to her AI "hybrid" movie'
Link to interview: (variety) (archive)
relevant section from interview:
I mean I don't doubt that some folks on the internet were absolute bastards about it. At the same time, while I've got a lot of love for Rian Johnson's work and don't have any room to criticize the process that creates it, I do have concerns. First off, while it's artistically satisfying and a good personal defense, retreating into a bubble away from criticism doesn't stop the economic and social repercussions of that criticism, which can definitely reflect back on the artistic product as it did when the far less interesting JJ Abrams was brought back to do the last Star Wars movie instead of letting Rian keep going. I don't have a good solution for that, since fighting the internet hate machine isn't something I'd wish on anyone, but it's still a problem. This is especially the case with Gen AI here because the economic and social consequences that technology has on artistic production and creativity are the whole point of the criticism. Like, it's not just that AI art is bad - we've seen plenty of bad art from human beings make it to theaters. Even if it gets less bad it's replacing actual people with artistic visions and actual lives with a machine that is, somehow, even more of an environmental disaster and economic drain on society. It sounds like this is the kind of story that might be trying to engage with some of that in a meaningful way, but I don't think that justifies actually using it here. Like, if you're paying to enter the torment nexus in order to post up your propogands about how we shouldn't have created the torment nexus, you're still paying the fuckers who created the torment nexus for their creation of the torment nexus.
I have to wonder whether Lyonne bought a pig in a poke, as it were. There has been, AFAICT, no actual investigative reporting about whatever the deal was for. Is it really just a new coat of paint slapped on the same kind of FX work that's been done for decades? ("Set extensions" sounds like the Star Wars prequels, for glob's sake.) Just how much here is A Guy Instead?
It would be darkly funny if the studio got reamed online for being anti-art sellouts, while also getting ripped off.
... That could be a good movie.
Agree 1000%. I don’t want to read into Johnson’s comments (not enough context from the article). That being said, he is only about two degrees separated from TESCREAL: the wife of his frequent collaborator JGL is Tasha McCauley, a former board member of OpenAI. JGL himself has spoken at EA events, and is reportedly directing an “AI thriller” for Johnson’s production company. My guess is that he isn’t surrounded by AI-critical people, which sucks, and would explain the lack of acknowledgement of the slop vortex on his part.
Not gonna lie, if Rian Johnson ends up being in that milieu I'll be absolutely heartbroken.