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feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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https://feddit.org/post/12851368

https://feddit.org/post/12529640

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.

One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I recognize Zionism as the result of the jewish struggle of the 19th and 20th century.

There's a sizeable difference between zionism being related to 19th and 20th century antisemitism and being a result from it.

The 19th and 20th century pogroms were gleefully used by zionists to justify their political project and anti-arab ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Comparing that political project to National Socialism is possibly the most appropriate comparison of any political movement since the holocaust, and far from hand-waiving this policy away as a regrettable legal restriction the mods at feddit.org seem quite keen on defending it as policy.

Holocaust denial/inversion/relativization is something (for good reason) illegal in Germany.

On the contrary, Holocaust exceptionalism prevents one from recognizing the severity and urgency of stopping genocides as they are happening. Nobody outside of Germany knew the scale of the Holocaust until long after it had actually ended - it would be self-defeating if we barred any discussion of genocidal political projects that draws too-close a comparison to the one we are most eager to prevent from happening again.