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Home Assistant is open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts. Perfect to run on a Raspberry Pi or a local server. Available for free at home-assistant.io

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is really disappointing. My HA Supervised install was running fine last year on an old laptop and unsupported distro. In order to move to a supported installation of HA I purchased a very efficient fanless laptop specifically sized to run Debian 12 and HA Supervised. This install has been rock solid and the opposite of "Hacky" (despite Howtogeek's clickbait title), and I expected it to easily last 5+ years. It's been 8 months.

Of course Home Assistant developers need to sometimes EOL specific configurations and dropping 32bit hardware support was overdue (the last 32 bit Raspberry Pi was released over 10 years ago), but 6 months is an absurdly short amount of notice to give users of supported configurations on supported hardware that they're going to be forced to migrate to something else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You bought a laptop to run home assistant?? Why? Why not just a random thinclient for ~50€?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Different people have different use cases. A thin client doesn't work for video object recognition, nor does it come with a keyboard, display, SSD or battery backup.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They usually do come with SSD. If you need object recognition, there are ones with an PCIe slot for a gpu.

But I am honestly not sure why you need a keyboard and display on a server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When I bought this laptop the cheap thin clients came with eMMC storage. Keyboard and display are convenient for installations, backups and occasionally other uses. A decent size UPS is more than $100, uses power even when it's in standby and still doesn't last anywhere near the 7+ hours of the laptop battery when the power fails. I'm away for 3-4 weeks at a time and have had repeated power failures completely corrupt my server SSD during that time. Not everyone can fix a server problem within a few hours.

The laptop cost significantly less than a thin client, plus a gpu, plus a UPS and came with that nice keyboard and display, and a warranty. It only uses about 6-8 watts the majority of the time, important to me for a device that's always on.

Different people have different use cases than you do. Some of us even know what works best for us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Maybe they want to be able to type things into it and look at the output without having to go over the network.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

6 months is not "absurdly" short considering it won't suddenly stop working. It's an open source project, 6 months is fairly reasonable for such circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can continue to used supervised, the difference is that it's no longer officially supported. TBH, almost all supervised installations weren't officially supported anymore, so nothing big changes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm aware it can still be run, but as I stated in my previous comment my platform and installation were specifically purchased and configured to be fully supported and I would like to keep it that way.