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    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Every immutable system allows you to run binaries

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    And the other 4 items?

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Couldn't reproduce modifying the store as root, but the users thing is true

    Not sure which things are not in the store though

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Root can't hit it simply, it's mounted rw, with a RO mount inside. Root can just check add and remove stuff while running with nix commands.

    Basically, it you have a privileged access exoloit, it's possible to target someone in ways you can't in silverblue

    Some people have made ways to make it more immutable. You can do things like add user folders and etc to the store. Harden it a little more. I'm the end, priv can just modify config*.nix and run rebuild in the background changing whatever.

    Other os, you have to commit changes and actually reboot. Which gives you an opportunity to check for changes and deny. Or at least fully detect it happened.

    It's not that it's dangerously insecure, but it's important to recognize it's not actually bulletproof and targeted attacks are still quite possible. It's LEAGUES more secure than regular OS, but you can't go full LifeLock on it.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    If you have a root exploit I doubt Silverblue will save you

    I'm not really running it for security reasons either

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I would argue it's harder to get a root exploit on Silverblue because more of the filesystem is less mutable and applications are more sandboxed.

    I'm running NixOS because declarative is saving me time on system changes nad keeping multiple workstations synced up.

    SB is more well protected against unauthorized system changes, Nix is more flexible while still providing good rollbacks.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Nobody is forcing you to install system applications on NixOS. I use flatpaks on it all the time

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    I hate flatpacks worse than I hate snap

    I spent their better part of two days wourth of spare time trying to get OBS and flat packs to take plugins.

    To be honest, I only install stuff that I use everyday and randomly. For anything that's part of a certain project or subsystem either use nix develop or nix shell.

    I have one that activates kdenlive, makes YTDLP available, FFmpeg, MPV, and then when I exit that shell all that stuff is no longer linked.

    Likewise I have oodles of rust and python projects that only bring into being what they need to get the work done.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

    Nah, I hate snap much more. Can't even install the normal version is Firefox anymore on Ubuntu without hunting online for an installer