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What are you even trying to say here, also what population crisis?
I'm saying that CPC already took anti-worker neoliberal measures like raising the retirement age therefore it should not be trusted to not take further anti-worker moves like enabling automation for the sake of profits and growth.
They cheered on Deepseek even though AI is bad. Now nobody should give them the benefit of doubt naively thinking "humanoid robots" will also not be cheered on when the porkys are all happy China found "new source of sustainable growth" or some garbage and in fact its just capitalist ghoul shit with a red paint.
The working age population is dropping like as expected from an industrialized nation. Source MR's blog
The 15-64 population is stagnating. As you can check from every metric here, its not even "news" this is what is happening since 2010.
The difference was the rate of urbanization, the massive infrastructure projects brought a lot of people from the rural areas into the cities and industrial centers, counteracting this population issue.
As you know though this is not enough on its own, its why China has turned to mainstream neoliberal consumption incentives last year. China is trying to boost consumption because their neoliberal advisors think this is the solution and the party happily accepts because there are no Marxists economists in positions of power, period.
This is quite literaly the reason they increased the retirement age which unfortunately rather than criticizing people just look away as some sort of necessary compromise, its 2025 behaving as if its 1985, smol bean China as if not China already biggest world economy and industrial power. This is a huge capitalist victory that is downplayed or ignored among pro-China circles. The CPC recycled their neoliberal excuses rather than risk economic growth. What is special about 5% a year? Does it justify neoliberal victories like this?
I do not know what your news article is meant to reference, I do not invoke liberal or "American meme" arguments. That population is an issue is undeniable. The question is entirely on what the CPC chooses to do and sadly if you want to label it doomerism than go back to the very beginning, as I said ask the CPC official here why did they raise the retirement age?
I like Michael a lot, this is what he had to say back then
The issue is he like everyone else just assumed that China will just keep doing things correctly yet fast forward not even 12 months later China is doing neoliberal consumer incentives exactly like he argued against. Barely 12 months later
Despite his optimism he did not mention the retirement age increase, Chinese AI good vs US AI bad or CPC praising "humanoid robots". Come on we know exactly where its going now.
Expect the same Japanese cope about robot shit, but because its China we will look away. They literally doing it with Deepseek vs US. The same copium excuses will be made, "oh its just for elderly care" "oh its for just some poor village can afford more workers", "look its not that bad because Chinese robots are actualy functional and cool and not Japanese Honda scam garbage from 1998 lol"
Equating raising retirement age with neoliberalism is an interesting take. Seems to me the decision was based on the material conditions in China.
That's just a pure reactionary position.
That's just pure nonsense I'm afraid. Can recommend reading a couple of books on the subject to educate yourself. Both do a great job explaining in detail and with references the Marxist position of the party and behind policies being taken.
The fact that you think China is neoliberal is frankly incredible. You seem to equate raising consumption with neoliberalism which is an absurd statement to make. China is a developing nation, and consumption is rising because standard of living is rising.
You are a caricature of exactly this pro China nationalism shit, 2 years ago Hexbear was praising the French workers who were throwing shit at the cops and government over their pension reform which included literaly the same thing China has done, raising the retirement age by 2 years. Here, worthless pro-China nationalism to justify this. This is what actualy based organized labour does when you mess up the pension system and raise the retirement age.
What western "ML" pro China do is to literaly put their own body on the line to defend capitalist profits calling it material conditions instead. This is honest to god so embarrassing.
This is exactly why this site continues to suck with the pro China shilling literaly borrowing the lines from our enemies.. No lessons learned, just garbage.
First you begin by questioning that China's population is not actualy decreasing, once debunking you retreat to try to talk about neoliberalism? God damn redditbro shit.
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Macron's bastard figure you'd be right at home, its no wonder the CPC is always traveling to the EU these days lol.
I'm never going to be ceased to be amazed how people who have the most superficial understanding of a subject will invariably hold the strongest views on it.