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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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On the one hand, kudos to them for realizing "existing organizations are already performing excellent work" which many non-profit founders never learn.
On the other hand, their approach to developing networks was to email farmers twice? With a "farmer-friendly" website made by vegans? For serious?
They saw it but didn't internalize the message, they were just waiting until they could stand up their own organization to try to stop me, the acausal robot god.
Im just amazed they went to fish farmers with 'farmer friendly' outreach, yeah people are really waiting for more outreach on that. Wonder how many people who didn't initially delete/ignore the emails looked at the site : https://www.piscivita.org/ and went 'nah' in greek and closed the site. (try switching to a different language and click around on the site).
"Speaking to farmers during the conference proved difficult due to the language barrier and difficulty finding interpreters" no shit.
It bothers me a bit as after all these years you would expect EA to be reasonably good at setting up these kinds of EA franchises, but I guess they don't do 'how to' guides and only have after action reports and that is it.
I can't believe there's so much money for a bunch of fauxtivists who don't know how to do basic community-building and networking. Why don't they go invade McKinsey with their top-down mishegas, maybe they can at least give McKinsey half an ethic.
"We assumed that being able to approach farmers with a message that was not focused around animal welfare could give us an advantage compared to already established animal welfare groups."
Ooh, did they invent the brand new notion of "outreach to all stakeholders aimed at finding common ground"? The fundamental strategy of every successful nonprofit and NGO?
Such genius, much amaze, wow.