I guess to be fair I was never really a stickler for any particular method; I’m just a lot more open to a lot of them.
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Yeah there's a difference, but you are being tricked into fighting against your own interests and the interests of all the victims of imperialism when you make your political struggle the struggle for putting people like Biden in power. You will never fix the problem by putting another Biden in power, or even a Bernie, because the problem is structural and it's called capitalism.
I'm being tricked? because I called out a shitty opinion? Takes a real true believer to see this much based on a comment on moral equivalency. This dude made a shit opinion. That doesn't mean I'm a fucking "vote blue no matter who" dickhead. Slow your roll.
You literally called active support for fascist genocide "milquetoast". Seems a pretty fair assumption.
jesus another hexbear user who has issues with reading comprehension. fuck me. one more reply then you are my fourth block.
the current administration is worse for Palestine than the previous (also hostile to Palestine) administration.
I'm talking about 'normal' shitty colonialism making milquetoast excuses, an administration who are bad but in the same way every other administration in US living history, versus the current eager and loud administration who delight and revel in the hatred, and actively encourage the visible and very real acceleration of the genocide against the innocent Palestinian population.
Both are bad, I hate that those are the choices. But any sane person interested in the actual welfare of the living people who are being terrorised and systematically murdered by the hideous apartheid regime that is isreal, would understand that less harm is better than more harm.
Honestly, in a world full of right wing hatred, the stripping of minority rights and open bigotry, you think someone who actually cares would spend their time attacking the people advocating for that rather than bickering with someone whom they think is supporting Palestine the wrong way.
Fucking pathetic. I'm embarrassed for you, and all of your peanut gallery friends.
One more reply, then I'm done.
The thing is, I do agree with the moral equivalence. Biden committed genocide. Trump is committing genocide. Biden set up Trump to do all the right wing cultural stuff by never actually wielding power and doing things like stacking the courts, codifying Roe v Wade, etc. Biden set Trump up for the push on immigration with his own rampant deportation program, failing to shut down Gitmo, non-action on legalizing drugs, and ramping up of police budgets under his admin.
There's clear continuity of agenda between the admins. I don't deny that there's a difference, but if you think the difference is significant enough that your political calculus is anywhere in the realm of "we need a Democrat again but good" then you need to read Lenin's Bourgeois and Proletarian Democracy.
Yes there is, dems are the part of the ratchet that stops things from swinging back further left. The two party system is entirely broken. But being complicit is very different from being eager. Right now, more Palestinians are dead then could have been. I'd prefer no dead palestinians, but given thats not on the table right now I will take less genocide. Anything that results in less dead innocents.
The only difference between being complicit and being eager us how you feel which means fuck all to anyone but you
or it manifests in a bolder and more aggressive approach from the people committing genocide. Fucking ideologues man, you're all so impotent and angry.
You are excusing genocide.
You are not clever enough to merit a response.
You're not clever enough to come up with one.
This was actually an amazing comeback lol
good one bud
Sure thing, genocide excuser.
It was in fact a good one
You're the one denying genocide. I'm the one talking about harm reduction. I guess I just care about Palestine more than you do.
Also, don't bother replying I won't see it, you can be the third person I've blocked. all from hexbear. I like the server but goddamn does it house a lot of fucking dumb cunts.
Ah yes, the democrats - famously harm reduction candidates on the issue of genocide. Did you see that it was revealed recently that the Biden/Harris camp never actually worked for a ceasefire? Yet somehow defending them is "harm reduction". This is so obviously just about you feeling better about genocide because your "team" happens to be the ones in charge.
and another hexbear, jesus christ, you guys are like robots. please refer to the answers I've givin your other pod brothers.
It's like the fucking borg, fuckin hell.
edit: also I've blocked you, so don't bother, I know you have nothing of value to add.
"All the people who try to explain to me the places where I am obviously wrong, they're all just robots yeah, that's it. So I don't need to try to address that nagging sense of cognitive dissonance I get when I read them, I'll just call them 'borg' and block them! Phew, that feels better."
What was that you were calling others in the thread, was it coward?
No one else in this thread is telling people to vote for Democrats, shithead. Even if Democrats supposedly do "less" genocide than the Republicans, less genocide is still genocide, and that's the genocide you are excusing. The rest of us simply aren't under any illusions that this slaughter would have stopped under the Democrats.
The only anti-genocide stance is no genocide. "Less" genocide is not acceptable.
Liberal coward. You are just as spineless as the party you support.
What does that approach comprise of? You seem to have a really solid theory on how to move forward and should elaborate, you're willing to take up arms so I'm sure you have a plan
You need to take a step back to understand how power works. The reason there even are options on the table is because capital is fully comfortable with you picking either one. The only solution if you really believe in stopping the slaughter machine isn't to pick the option on the table, it's to take a sledgehammer to the whole thing and join the PSL.
oh my god, the lack of self reflection is astounding.