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As I was passing through Amsterdam, OSM lied to me several times. I don’t have the tools and means to correct the maps for various complex reasons starting with not having a good Internet connection, but really an Amsterdam local should get involved anyway because I’m not sure of all these problems.

Misinfo:

  • Brouwerij Troost (52.36616°N, 4.87318°E) ← shutdown
  • Manamana (52.35410°N, 4.89033°E) ← apparently shutdown; someone should verify
  • Hecke Electronica (52.35243°N, 4.88725°E) ← shutdown; owner retired. It should be updated to say “/Formerly/ Hecke Electronica” until something replaces it
  • Flower Burger (52.37226°N, 4.88566°E) ← replaced with a /cashless/ croissant shop.
  • CT Coffee & Coconuts (52.35267°N, 4.89150°E) ← replaced with another similar shop. Not sure if other Coffee & Coconuts locations closed or just this one.

Missing info:

  • Bierfabriek Amsterdam (52.37007°N, 4.89375°E) ← cashless¹!
  • Brouwerij De Engel (52.37007°N, 4.89375°E) ← building is rightfully unnamed since the brewery was only there a couple years before bankruptcy. It should be updated to say “/Formerly/ Brouwerij De Engel” so people actually know the brewery is no longer there, until something else is established there.

¹ When a cashless merchant sells alcohol, it’s a trap and an injustice. Having records of alcohol consumption stupid and reckless because it denies consumers their GDPR Art.5 right to data minimisation. And it has consquences. E.g. a scandinavian home buyer was denied a loan because the bank discovered he bought alcohol regularly. Anyway, there will always be dumb consumers who pay for alcohol electronically, but in the very least OSM should mark cashless bars as cashless so wise consumers can easily avoid them. I walked out of my way to visit Bierfabriek only to discover they were cashless. Unlike other cashless bars, they were at least diligent about posting it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Check out StreetComplete. You won't be able to fix everything, but this might be more tailored for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I appreciate the tip but I installed that some time ago. It just shows an empty map whenever I try to use it. My phone is hardened. I give no apps the privilege to use clearnet. StreetComplete may be fussy about IP addresses. But I think the facility to add notes on the OSM website without logging in will be my solution given my complex set of circumstances.