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One hundred and seventy-seven thousand people.

That's roughly 3.5 per cent of Alberta's population. It's also the amount of signatures that will be needed to force a separation referendum

It can’t be that hard to take advantage of this and get a hundred other random referendums. What else should they get everyone to vote on?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Separatists polled at 19% before the federal election, and there's so much that will stop them even if it somehow passed. These people existed before the PC / Wildrose merger. That was part of Wildrose and Take Back Alberta.

Natives, the Crown, being totally landlocked, the fact they'd lose a huge amount of the population.

Also, Alberta didn't join via negotiation like Quebec. This was Hudson's Bay private property called Rupert's Land. Surrendered to Canada. Alberta would need all premiers to say yes and 50% of the population nationally. Womp womp.

Thanks, Jason Kenney. You really united the reich. Embarrassing clowns. Come on, Nenshi pull it off and give us a break.

Could we even sell our homes without further financial ruin trying to leave? They'd have half or more of the province potentially fleeing. Millions of very angry people with nothing left to lose with a sudden abundance of free time to think about that on the way out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Alberta being created out of the NWT (Rupert's Land had already been annexed by Canada decades before) has no bearing on what constitutional amendment formula would apply in case of succession; the Constitution Act 1982 makes no distinction. The Clarity Act though does say that the provinces should be included in the negotiation of the constitutional amendment granting succession. But it doesn't give an opinion on whether their consent is necessary (ie which amendment formula to use). So yes succession could be under the unanimous consent formula or the 7/50 formula but it could just as well be under the "amendment to the Constitution of Canada in relation to any provision that applies to one or more, but not all, provinces" formula where only the House of Commons, Senate, and relevant province's legislature need to consent. (The Quebec Succession Reference Question affirmed that a province's membership in Confederation isn't just part of that province's constitution meaning provinces can't just amend their own constitutions to unilaterally succeed)

And yeah since treaty are affirmed as part of the constitution by Section 35, the constitutional amendment granting succession would also require renegotiation/amendment of treaties 6, 7, 8, and 10, which would in turn require the consent of the federal government and all the party First Nations. Maybe you could argue that if Alberta stayed a monarchy then the Canadian Crown could pass its responsibility to an independent Alberta Crown the same way the Imperial Crown gradually became an independent Canadian Crown, but I doubt the courts in this day and age would just ignore Indigenous protests to that. Especially considering that the Crown had been represented by the Government of Canada for the entire time the Numbered Treaties have existed and all but Treaty 7 would then have to deal with the Crown splitting in two.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Could we even sell our homes without further financial ruin trying to leave? They'd have half or more of the province potentially fleeing.

How to solve the housing crisis with one neat trick! Might cause a few other problems though.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm happy to see all these letters with no mincing of words.

I'm curious if Zelenskyy who is coming to Alberta shortly will have the time to notice the pararells between this foreign backed separatist movement and Ukraine's. Smith is openly a MAGA traitor.

I hope he says something. He doesn't have to, guy is busy.

Does everyone remember one of Russia's weak justifications for invasion? It's potentially quite relevant in Alberta now in regards to Trump annexation threats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Zelenskyy coming to Alberta has real potential to maake the rest of Canada totally fed up with and disgusted by Alberta.

This could be fun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Definitely going to be interesting to see what he has to say. Definitely got similar vibes to what's happening there.