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Ok so I've barely played this game so far, I'm only up to the Blighted Village. But I heard this guy is an annoying as fuck Redditor but so far he's just been a lovable dork. Does he get worse or something?

Honestly having Moss from The IT Crowd in my party is a breath of fresh air considering the other party members consist of an angry green fascist, a goblin racist, a foppish dandy who immediately tried to cut my throat, and someone called Shadow Fart.

I heard he was more obnoxious before patches. Do tell.

Edit: Oh and Wyll is there too I guess. I unironically forgot he existed lmao

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Good god, you mean it was even more horny?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There was also a bug where he'd just.. Say lines that were meant for characters romancing him abruptly.

On my first playthrough it got so bad I couldn't do his actual quest because he kept talking about how much he loved me

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Ok I take it back that sounds like the worst thing ever lmao

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There was something where everyone's first romance scene was super easy to trigger. His was kinda obnoxious, and felt like him mansplaining magic to the PC if I remember right.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Oh my god, him mansplaining the Weave to my sorceress was fucking infuriating. I live and breathe magic, my guy, I do not need you to lead me in a guided meditation or whatever it is we're doing!

And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You're level 1, dude!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Various spoilers.

Yeah, it's pretty silly. His backstory was probably near or at Epic level

spoilerif he genuinely thought he could fuck around with Karsus' Folly - that's one of the few things that would have your peer superwizards (who mostly dislike each other) joining forces to put a stop to.

I think pretty much all the character's backgrounds were a poor choice on their part. You don't need a shred of backstory upfront if the writing is up to snuff, and having theirs be so high-level kinda makes everything happening pretty low stakes - the intro cinematic with the spelljammer vs dragonriders is basically a level 20 action sequence, and then you're slogging through mud and goblins hearing about how cool everyone else used to be, having just seen how cool the stuff you don't get to do is.

Plus Elminster could genuinely solve all of it in about three hours, so he shouldn't have even been there to say:

spoiler"So I hear you're an unstable antimagical nuclear weapon now Gale?".
Then teleport away without doing anything about it.

But eh, the story and stakes are all over the place.

spoilerIt isn't even actually mind flayers! It's just mid-level clerics of the three gods who job harder than Skeletor, with a plan so intensely stupid - fucking around with Illithid - that it can only function via the power of a saturday morning cartoon villain's mcguffin.

It's... like the Battle Angel Alita movie. It likes the source material too much, so it crams in too many elements from much later and weakens itself in the process. Or perhaps the poison of escalation.

spoilerIt isn't just hints of the mind flayer space empire, it's a netherese superweapon, no wait, it's also the Dead Three! The city you'll reach in thirty hours will be destroyed - and the entire world hangs in the balance! Only your level 12 characters can save the universe!
spoiler


[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They were definitely all(?) high level characters before the brainworm

willWill could summon greater demons in his backstory, meaning he was lv11 at minimum.

karlachKarlach cannot have survived as soldier in hell for decades and not leveled up at all, that's also impossible. Devils and demons are strong

shartShart is supposed to be a sharran elite, and all the mobs in the temple are like level 5 at minimum. She was definitely way higher, at least lv 9.

So will being a high level wizard in his backstory is pretty believable. Almost none of these characters work as level 1 characters. Maybe astarion or laezel? Idk

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

And then when you find out his backstory it sounds like exactly the kind of thing I would veto if he were a PC in my game. You're level 1, dude!

I always assumed the level 1 bit was a result of the brainworms, but you're right, the redditor wizard is probably the biggest stretch of that.

spoilerKeeping his hand as a souvenir is funny during an evil Dark Urge playthrough.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah from what people were saying he acted like a nice guy(TM) prior to patches? That would make me hate him too. If he's still like that I might yeet him off a cliff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was also a large straight cis-male gamer audience that does not understand that rejecting someone's romantic advances (and/or did not understand that he was making romantic advances) is not a mean/rude thing to do, leading to situations like this hilarious comic.

I think specifically feeding him magic items was quickly filling up his "NPC likes you" meter now that I think of it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I've only fed him one thing and haven't gotten anything that hints at starting a romance path yet. I don't plan on romancing any characters so that's fine with me lol.