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Conservative is just another word for fascist
What the fuck. Clear your head. No it isn't. But fascists support right wing parties.
The founders of conservative ideology, people like Burke and DeMaistre, were literally monarchists. Conservatism has always been an attempt to whitewash and justify tyranny.
Can you elaborate? Like what specifically was monarchist and tyrannical?
Yes it is. Conservatives have shown time and time again that they will vote and cheer for fascism if conditions are bad enough.
You are part of the problem. The normalization of conservative politics leads directly to fascism.
Hey, don't minimise fascism like that. We basically wouldn't be here if that was true.
Hey, don’t aggrandize Conservatism like that.
It and facism have strong ideological ties in that they both take root in the idea of a ruling monarchy, which is how we actually got here.
The only difference between it and the big F are how many people are in actual control, and how overt they are about removing civil rights.
We've had Conservative governments nearly half the time. Somehow democracy and progress continued. Fascism doesn't have ideas so much as it's the antithesis of compromise and democracy.
They're both right-wing, but there's a huge difference between going to mosque and ISIS, or trusting the police and thinking they shouldn't have to follow any rules.
…and yet there is a reason theAlt-right pipeline exists, but not an alt-left.
Being a stepping stone ideology on the path to facism alone should give a normal person pause to critically think about their direction in the first place.
Again, don’t aggrandize Conservatism.
I mean, the pipeline could only be as old as the internet, which rules out most of the history of Conservatism, and there definitely is a left-wing equivalent. It's just proven less appealing.
I see that you’re misinformed: that pipeline has tracks back to John Romulus Brinkley who inspired the likes of Rush Limbaugh, who you should recognize.
What is your source on a left wing pipeline of the same ilk? I’d love to know your sources.
What would you call all the people recruited into the far-left by Chapo Trap House?
You mean the dirtbag left movement? Sure, that’s a good start for an entry point into the alt-left funnel, totally understandable.
Where’s the rest of the pipeline?
Depends, which kind of leftist are we talking about?
Scope was to identify the alt-left pipeline, you’ve provided one, I guess literally any other groups that are tied directly to CTH or the dirtbag left working in coordination would suffice.
Hexbear (or Lemmygrad? One of them) was an outgrowth of Chapo, if the kind that thinks North Korea is Wakanda counts. I'm less clear on the trajectory future anarchists take.
I certainly feel those instances have a slant but I more strongly feel this is grasping at straws.
I appreciate your perspective.
Conservative is what, auth-right...right?
Which is militant and hierarchical, without rights for anyone but those at the top. With dissenters shot and killed absolutely. Fight for this ideal with any means or join the ~~army~~ Nazis.
Auth-left is the exact same, but rights for everyone. With dissenters shot and killed absolutely. Fight for this ideal with any means or join the ~~army~~ rebellion.
Lib-left is rights for everybody, but with chaos. Nobody gets shot. No militancy. Fight for this ideal by talking and loving and making everybody smarter and wiser and more peaceful and cooperative.
Lib-right is no rights for anyone but those at the top, with chaos. Nobody gets shot and no militancy, they'll just take away your rights with economic power and selectively withholding education. Fight for this ideal by taking resources from those who you believe who are at the bottom of the ranking of caste because it's the natural order and has no consequences. May only the strongest survive. Don't help anybody else, unless they're a threat, then grovel, unless you can murder them and take their money.
Sure that’s a useful topography if you’re an AI only familiar with a meme graph chart and think in black and white devoid of any nuance.
Or if you think about what the actual end goals are for each quadrant
This is the same logic right wingers use to suggest liberal voters are communists.
I understand where you’re coming from, but actual meatspace reality is starkly different to hypothetically working out the end goal threat model of each quadrant and stating it aligns.
Completely dehumanizing the conversation to prop up ridiculous arguments with false equivalence to a meme graph is not an effective argument.