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I don't think Trump gets elected if the white dipshits are content with their material conditions, though?
I think there's real discontent in America in 2025, even with how privileged Americans are globally. I think that discontent is ultimately a result of getting squeezed by capitalism, and that most folks aren't aware of that. Trump won by acknowledging that "the system" is broken, which most people know- he just pointed them to bigotry instead to protect capitalism.
That's not to say that American's material struggles are comparable to Burkina Faso's - I think white folks in America are soft as shit - but I don't think people feel like they're doing well, and that's ultimately what drives their actions.
They're not content not because they're exploited. They're not content because they're not as privileged anymore. Treats are more expensive and they can't call Blake people the n-word anymore.
Exactly!! People are exploited and they know it, they're just often ignorant of the cause.
America is deeply racist, and fascists stoke those flames to explain why people are exploited.
I think the quote is still relevant because a ton of our work is explaining to people "no, treats aren't more expensive because woke, it's because capitalism."
White American by and large aren't exploited, fascist propaganda speaks to them because it takes advantage of their fears of losing their privileged status.
Oh sorry I just reread your post and I missed the second "not" in you first sentence, which really changes the meaning haha
I definitely had a different view: that white folks were also exploited under capitalism, just to a lesser degree. I looked up a few stats and I still think that generally, but the gap is way bigger than I thought.
It's not a perfect measure, but I'm comfortable saying "most Americans are living on the edge." Even if we round down to 50% and assume every single non-white person is below that line, that would still leave 13% of America white folks living on the edge.
Which is more than the entire population of black Americans (12%), which tbh I did not expect. (Note: I'm kinda suspect of the 'multiracial' bucket as it applies to how folks experience systemic racism, since iiuc that tends to be more like the family guy skin color ok/not ok meme. i.e. I assume that there are a decent number of folks in the 11% 'multiracial' bucket that experience anti-black racism)
I really like this article, too, specifically median wealth by race and the households by "teirs" of wealth.
Because holy shit there are so many well-off white folks and yeah, as a whole they're rolling in it.
"Households with no wealth or in debt" (poorest 11% of the overall population) shows 9% of white households have zero or negative wealth, compared to 24% of black households. Applied to the overall population, that's 6% and 3%, respectively. Which... challenges my intuition. I would not expect white folks to make up the majority of the poorest group of Americans.
Honestly, I think the biggest takeaway for me is that there's an absolute shitload of white people. As a group they're incredibly well off, but there's also a huge number of struggling white folks.
What I'd really like to see is the racial makeup of each wealth percentile, something like this graph, but scaled by the absolute number of folks in each category, not by the percentage of a given race that falls in each bucket. Looks like the underlying data is published by the government, so I might try to do it myself sometime.
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