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It's always great when people who aren't trying to change things explain to us (vegans, environmentalists, feminists etc.) that we do not protest the right way โข and that we don't have the correct targets/methods.
Usually this is a byproduct of people not wanting to be bothered changing anything and pointing the finger towards other actors:
While I agree that only going after end-of-chain customers is unlikely to create at-scale change in the ~~meat~~ rape, torture and murder industry, it still has some effects.
Also these actions are a good way to build a community sentiment for the people included and incrementally go after other types of action.
For example, in the Extinction Rebellion movement, lots of activists started with legal protests, then illegal protests and road blocking and eventually a few of them built up to direct action against carbon-emitting industrial sites.
You also have to understand that the risk level is not the same when you go after customers and when you go after the industries.
They aren't paid enough, period. I only hope that the activists only went after the customers and not the workers (which seems to be the case here, otherwise the article would probably have mentionned it).
See higher. Also, as a general principle, fuck your opinion of what it means to put effort in a cause. Being in a place where most people dislike/hate your cause in a world where other activists have been assaulted and injured by assholes is already a fucking effort.
Nah, be honest at some point.
We vegans are not chill people enjoying out lives, we are decent people trying to function in a dystopian world where the industrial mass murder of hundreds of billions of sentient beings every year is considered normal in the name of culture and/or pleasure.
The root of non-vegan opposition is the same as the root of big-car-lovers and masculinists opposition: acknowledging the truth would be too hard because it would mean acknowledging how much suffering you have caused. And it's not entirely your fault, we've all been raised the same way, made to consider this was normal.
So any movement asking you to reconsider puts your brain in a very uncomfortable position, to which you react with rejection. And because no one wants to look like an asshole, you pick the group you deem most extreme and play the "I have no issue with vegans, but these vegans are a bit much and do a disservice to the cause" card - which is universally used to oppose societal progress whatever the topic.
Once again, thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom about a movement you are not part of. We all were really waiting for your input to decide how to treat our allies.
Edits: spelling
Cheers for proving my point mate.
So I prove your point by expressing my disagreement and providing arguments? Effective tactics, I can't argue with that.
If I made you feel better about yourself and more sure that you're right I missed my target but you're welcome anyway.
Have a nice one.
Nah, by being a dick about it, plenty of ways to express your disagreement and provide arguments without attacking me. But hey, I still stand by my original post that started our interaction, most vegans a good chill people who don't deserve to be made to look bad.
See your other comment:
In my opinion you lost the right of not being talked to in a dickish way when you wrote this. If according to you physically assaulting people who try to make the world better is justified, I'm not gonna answer politely and wait the slap on the other cheek.
Cool, I'm gonna go eat some roast pork. Have a cunty day you fucking weirdo.
Thank you for your service, these intelligent emotion-capable animals ain't gonna murder themselves, we need more people like you! ๐