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Is that a real trump tweet? That's scary.
Fascism has no ideology. They will just take any varnish that makes them look acceptable in the short term. Just like fake tan, it's just gold paint over a turd.
Fascism is best described as Capitalism's mask. When the circumstances Capitalism finds itself in due to its own contradictions endanger the system, it dons the mask and does the dirty work necessary to perpetuate the system. From slaughtering minority groups to crushing worker movements, the inherently contradictory and irrational behavior found in fascism are there to ultimately save Private Capital.
Fascism isn't a unique system, but Capitalism in decay.
Would you say that communists should not concentrate our energies attempting to prevent liberal democracy from turning into fascism? Like supporting social-democratic parties to keep fascists away. My understanding is that liberal "democracy" has some temporary advantages over fascism, but is not worth much energy.
Fascism is more acutely violent, but also temporary. Hitler initiated a war against much of the World, which he could not win. He was also incompetent. Out of insane hubris, he bypassed his generals and military strategists, because he was the chosen genius. Allegedly he didn't have a real strategy to defeat the British Empire. He wanted to win the war by winning battle after battle. Thus he was defeated (largely by the Red Army), and "only" some 80 million lives were lost.
Liberal "democracy", on the other hand, kills ten million people every few years, for centuries.
Fascism is brutal, crass, and visibly hateful. Liberal "democracy" is sophisticated, less acutely violent, and is falsely compassionate, but is also more competent at preserving itself and making victims.
Social Democracy is the twin of fascism. Both arise as mechanisms to defend against the decay of Capitalism, the former through bribery, the latter through brutality.
In my opinion, it depends on if the country is Imperialist, or Imperialized. If the Social Democratic movement in an Imperialized country is a national liberation movement, and thus moves against Imperialism, it should be supported. Socialism should still be supported over Social Democracy, but critical support for Capitalist countries fighting against Imperialism is important as Imperialism is the primary contradiction.
In the Imperial core, both should be firmly opposed. Social Democracy may be preferable over fascism, but both perpetuate Imperialism and thus both are to be opposed. Both will root out Communism if it poses a threat, with equal or near equal vigor.
https://lemmy.ml/post/501381
Damn right. Socialism or barbarism, either we break the cycle and move on to a better world, or Capital will happily kill us when it needs.
https://lemmy.ml/post/2485212
Thank you, I certainly needed a refresher on the Freikorps. I greatly admire the work you do, it's a tremendous resource for us all.