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    [–] elvith@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (3 children) 
    sudo apt remove grub
    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I might be wrong, but I think that actually wouldn't do anything, because grub is installed by the tooling from the package, not the package itself?

    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Try it and report back

    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I'm tempted, though I use rEFInd not grub, but fixing any damage should be easy with a live image handy...

    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    You're very brave! I meant on like a virtual machine

    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Eh, I've previously fucked up my bootloader, all you need to do to fix it is boot up a live image, mount your root partition, arch-chroot into it, then follow normal steps to set the bootloader back up - it's not scary if you know what you're doing, just time-consuming

    [–] stuner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children) 
    E: Removing essential system-critical packages is not permitted. This might break the system.

    You can still do it if you really want, but even Linux rightly has some protections against breaking your system.

    [–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I do want to clarify: it's not Linux itself, but specific distributions (or rather their package managers). As far as I know, Arch's pacman would do nothing to stop me πŸ₯°

    [–] stuner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    True, Linux applications (e.g. apt, dnf, pip, but also rm, sudo, and many more) would be more precise.

    For Arch, it's probably not so easy to define "essential" packages, as it, for example, supports many different bootloaders. It is of course also a question of distro philosophy and target audience. Personally, I've noticed that "rm -r" as root prompts for every file on RHEL but does not on Arch...

    [–] addie@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, swapped out grub for systemd-init on a running Arch system not too long ago. Arch is cool with it. Be sure not to make any really bad typos while you've not got a boot manager, of course.

    [–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

    Single use linux.