Trippin' Through Time

He was barely center-left.

He still ran faaaaaar to the left of any recent Democratic campaign, which still completely torpedoes your assertion that the current Democrats aren't running right enough to win elections.

He was able to speak like a progressive, but still nab a massive amount of independent, and his policies reflected that.

Oh please, there is not some huge group of independents who voted for Obama because they saw him as a conservative centrist who then went on to not vote for Clinton, Biden, or Harris because they were too left wing. That isn't a thing.

the last overtly “Progressive” candidate was George McGovern in '72

Oh so only 50 years then! Still means your claim that progressive candidates can't win us totally baseless.

You act as if merely having a “progressive” candidate is the secret sauce to winning the election.

No, I am just rejecting your baseless assertion that progressive candidates can never win.

I’m desperately trying to tell you that it’s a hell of a lot more complicated than that.

Other around: you're trying to argue that it's as simple as "independents are in the middle of Democrats and Republicans" and I'm telling it's a lot more complicated then that