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A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.

Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm honestly glad the crisis the Palestinian genocide has created (of course, I believe this goes with saying, I wish it never had to come to this and that Palestinians were free from the beginning and never faced settler occupation and this holocaust nightmare) has happened while Bernie is still alive. It has radicalized so many people against Bernie and other socdems, undoing much of the harm they caused toward the socialist movement and finally radicalizing people who would have been radicalized earlier. I'm glad Bernie will have to die knowing he's a monster who perpetuated genocide, and that people are beginning to not settle for an imperialist social democracy but for actual revolution to dismantle and replace this horrific system of oppression that threatens humanity's survival.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah it's one of those things where of course we'd rather it not be happening, but it's also not surprising that it is because this is the nature of imperialism, colonization, and the kind of stuff the US and its similars (Britain, France, etc.) have been doing for hundreds of years. US is a more recent form of it, but no less vicious for it. Bernie for whatever reason, belief, fear, or being a fraud, is unwilling to speak out against US imperialism as a whole and so the local movements are moving past him and his messaging ends up sounding hollow. Like I called him a broken record because what he's saying at the beginning of this clip sounds almost word for word like what he was saying years ago. Which isn't inherently a bad thing, as it's still true, but considering he won't properly address US imperialism and mainly focuses on the lot of US workers, it makes him sound like just another tone deaf party democrat, playing through the same scripts because they worked some in the past.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Exactly. I just put a disclaimer there because it sounded a little distasteful without it, at least for anyone new who didn't know my beliefs. I just wanted to be clear I'm not relishing in the genocide of a people for sake of radicalizing people.

When I first listened to the video, I was also thinking about how Bernie just keeps repeating his same old lines, sounding pathetic as the masses, who have farther developed class consciousness over the past decade, are not putting up with the censorship and ongoing whitewashing of the genocide. They demand radical change which Bernie is straying away from as he compromises more and more with the far right democrats and republicans while refusing to put up any fight.

Messages like the rich need to pay for their fair share isn't enough. The rich systematically maintain a system through violence and austerity to keep their power and wealth, instilling bigotry and reactionary ideas among the masses to keep them competing and working against each other, and dismantling rights fought and won by previous movements. As Parenti said, the people really want to be liberated from the bourgeoisie's control and domination of their lives. They are tired of struggling for survival. Bernie's pathetic fight for concessions are not enough. The people want full liberation, to finally dismantle a society the perpetuates horrors that no one should ever have to experience, and they want a system that will ensure it never returns.