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This graphic does not need pedestrians or bikes. They aren't competitive with vehicles of any kind when you start talking about multimile distances.
A more realistic simulation would be including the loading time for each vehicle type (car/bus/train) for a 5, 10, and 20 mile distance. That way you see how these vehicles are actually used rather than a shitty first past the post "race". Removing the loading/unloading times of each vehicle wildly skews it in mass transport's favor.
It would also be interesting to include usage costs associated with each mile range. I figure a bus pass for a 20 mile trip is a lot cheaper than loan payments, gas, and maintenance for a single passenger car ride.
No, bikes are competitive up to 8-10 miles in city traffic. And if traffic is especially bad for even longer distances.
I know it's only anecdotal, but my 5 mile commute is the same by bike or car, 15-17 minutes depending on traffic.
On the other hand the 25 mile ride to a friend's house takes 90 minutes by bike compared to the 30 it takes by car on the highway.
Makes sense to me, the last time I did a long bike ride was over a decade ago. With my lack of cardio even a handful of miles sounds daunting.
Get an ebike to work your way back up. Start with full assist and you'll get some stamina pretty quick
But this isn’t about speed, it is about space efficiency. The whole point is even taking speed into account, cars waste so much space per person that it takes them 2-8 times as long to make up for the space they take as any other mode of transportation.
I would also like to see parking lots shown for space visually at a location needed extra for those types of transport because that also is a problem.
If you’re worried about speed that’s not so much a visual, as an entire study on travel in a metropolitan area, including stuff like walking to metro, boarding/unboarding, walking to final location, heating up car in the winter, finding and paying for parking, traffic patterns, etc.
That's a completely valid point, with less cars there would be a lot more space with the lesser need of parking lots