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GTAV, a scene at the Vanilla Unicorn strip club specifically
It's... A really fucking stupid thing to bitch about specifically in that game, honestly. Of course a strip club objectifies women, and of course a game about criminality and the seedy underworld will have one
John Wick is a movie about criminality and the seedy underworld, and there's no scene where John Wick gets a lap dance. There are women who appear to be sex workers, and John Wick murders their bosses. The audience isn't invited to participate in the objectification, the audience is invited to hate the antagonist for objectifying women and wish for justice.
There's nothing wrong with a game about robbing banks, because most people don't rob banks, and a video game isn't going to give them ideas. But a video game where you pretend to be a misogynist can teach dangerous habits, because that behaviour is easy to bring out of the game.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the people sending death threats to Anita Sarkeesian for saying games should objectify women less, are the people who went on to storm the capital to try and install a fascist dictator.
So depicting violence is fine because people don't do those violent things. Except people will do violent things (like Jan 6) but when that happens it's because they they saw a lap dance being depicted?
Strawman? False equivalence? This is a pretty bad argument.
First, I know this is the internet so everyone jumps to extremes. But can we please try to keep some level of nuance on the fediverse? And avoid personal attacks maybe??
I am an avid gamer, and have always wanted to believe violent video games don't affect players. But the vast majority of studies indicate either some level of being desensitized or increase in aggression.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6790614/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15013257/
https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/10.1027/1864-9335/a000154
So depicting violence isn't great, especially (or maybe primarily) for kids.
Seeing a lap dance isn't bad at all. But objectifying women and unequal representation is not great. Sex, OK. Sexism, not OK. Hopefully we can agree on that at least?