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[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

random motion of the Earth's atmosphere

Are you able to elaborate on what you mean by this at all please, or possibly suggest a direction to look in to find more about what this means and the implications?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Have you ever looked at something on the horizon and it's all shimmery and wavy and won't hold still? That's because air (and moisture in the air) diffracts light. And the air is not still, either. When you're looking an incredibly small object that's extremely far away the effect is rather like trying to see through one of those pebble textured glass shower doors, except if it were moving and the object you were looking at were the size of a gnat. And also several miles past the door.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

That's basically how I've always pictured it, like in my mental physics playground or whatever, the many, many particles may not be dense when you take a small sample (like a cubic foot of air or something) but through miles of atmosphere it adds up and the light has lots to bounce around and off of before it gets to you. Do I basically have that right? That comment someone added makes me think im understanding it right but maybe not explaining my understanding quite right, but maybe you get what I'm trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, and also different patches of air are different densities because of temperature, or humidity, and they're neither even nor consistent nor still. Convection makes the atmosphere bubble, wind makes it shear, and all the rest of it. The air itself acts as a lens, and a very inconsistent and unpredictable one at that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Similar just the impact of dust over a large enough distance.

Try going up to the top of, say, a 50 storey building in a moderately polluted city during a fairly still, warm, dry spell of weather and look down at the ground.

It'll likely look a lot more dusty than from street level.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Just to add to this, air at different temperatures and moisture levels bends light to different degrees, which is why the layers and pockets of air that form our atmosphere make stars shimmer. It’s partially why astronomers are so eager to get telescopes into space (like Hubble and the James Webb), since the lack of this effect lets them resolve much smaller light sources than you could hope to beneath the atmosphere.