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Advocating piracy is one thing, but now banning people for believing in copyright? That's like banning people for following the law. That is banning people for following the law. What gives? And to think a while ago I declared I wouldn't have any reason to not take their bans (or the motives behind them) seriously.

Are we trying to get world governments to ban Lemmy (or, worse, the fediverse)? Love the administrative decisions or hate them, such decisions will drag down the whole fediverse. Typically sites are defederated to protect the sites defederating them from liability. Will this be an example, or does this, out of convenience, not apply? Are we forgetting a large portion of the fediverse's demographics consist of artists trying to make a damn living?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Also not sure how one can do apologia without believing in what they're saying.

...you can just lie to people... like trolls...

But even if we assume for charitability's sake that apologia ==> believing in the cause, that does not automatically mean that apologia <== believing in the cause. Like they're not being banned for your beliefs. That user was banned for advocating for them. Which again, without context is still an overreach IMO, but this is absolutely not someone being banned for simply having the wrong opinion.

The law can take down the Fediverse

Can they? Sure they can take down individual servers, sure they can ~~make it impossible for money grubbers to make money here~~ make it hard to be profitable, but they can't take us all out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When a government blocks a website in a country, they do so by registering the website's name on a list of websites held by the internet providers. They can do this to any website federated with a certain website they want blocked until they're all blocked. They have blocked email providers before, if you want a rough model of how this would work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Okay but once you block all the existing Fediverse sites, some people spin up new sites and we can move over to those. And I think PieFed has an option to copy and move whole communities.

But also...I honestly think that the public at large needs to treat world governments and corporations as adversarial threats to be actively circumvented, even for completely benign things like applying for work or talking to people online. I.e. we need to socially normalize the mass usage of Tor and other anonymizing software because the people who least of all deserve power are the ones who control our internet.