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Im not quite who you guys are talking about, but im pretty close. I dont have any issues with people talking about how poor current AI is, but it seems pointless. Its like pointing out that a toddler is bad at spelling. My issue comes in when people say that AI will always be useless. Even now its not useless. And top commentor did already point out the key detail: this is as bad as it will ever be.
There is nothing stopping AI from becoming better at everything you can do than you are. Everything until then is just accoimating us to that world. Ai isnt going to be the next big thing, its going to be the only big thing ever. It will literally be more impactful on this galaxy than all of humanity excluding the creation of AI.
These things can’t think and they don’t reason no matter what they call the model. Toddlers can do both of those things.
Until we have another breakthrough at the level of neural networks AI will only be as good as the sum total of the training data and therefore only as good (or bad) as humans can be, never better.
But this is one case where we know its possible to create those sorts of ais, because its effectively what nature does with the huamn mind. It might be entirely possible that true ai is a biology exclusive issue. Or, as is much more likely, it can be replicated through circuitry.
Tangentially related, how do you define thinking and reasoning? I would argue it cannot think however it can currently reason fairly well, even if that reasoning is flawed due to hallucinations. It has issues that i dont want to downplay, but i havent seen any reason to suggest that modern ai has any issues reasoning when all factors are controlled (not using a censored model, enough token memory, not hallucinating, etc)
People who claim AI can’t do X never have an actual definition of X.
I’ve been challenging people with that same basic question (“How do you define understanding? How do you define reasoning?”) and it’s always, 100% of the time, the end of the conversation. Nobody will even try to make a definition.
Don't use inexact language if you don't mean it. Think carefully— do you mean everything?
I’m sure he does. I mean it too.
If you disagree, name something you don’t think AI will surpass humans in.
Folly. You're living proof.
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