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Yeah, he absolutely should have replaced the supreme Court judges trump placed that made the ruling! Or at least he should have ordered them to rule differently by executive order!
Maybe he should have pushed for something to happen when he happen to be VP during a super majority 🤔
Why didn't he, as VP, push to legalize something that was already legal and viewed as settled law when the president was focused on the ACA during the, what was it, like 2 weeks they had a super majority?
Come on man.
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You mean they had been using it to raise money and get people to the polls for 30 years but no one thought they were dumb enough to actually overturn it.
There were more pressing issues at the time.
Yes precisely. It had been part of their platform for THIRTY YEARS, for THIRTY YEARS they told you they would do this. And in those THIRTY YEARS, including TWO super majority none of the Dems thought "you know, maybe we should make sure it doesn't happen."
As I said, inaction is as complicit as omission is a lie. Omission is a "lesser" lie, but it's still a lie.
Surely the leopard won't eat my face!
Pretty sure the left has been telling you guys this for THIRTY YEARS.
Go look up how long the Democrats had a supermajority. I’ll wait.
You should at least try to educate yourself on things you are absolutely furious about.
What's your point? You tell me what they achieved during this short, but completely unimpeded time. Did they reform the supreme court? Did they codify Roe v Wade? Tell me. I'll wait!
Haha, I guess you looked it up! That’s a start. But I wonder, did you not bother also reading what went on leading up to and during that time, and what they spent their efforts on? Because it was kind of a big deal and major news at the time. Also, it wasn’t unimpeded! One of the Senators, who later left the Democratic Party, impeded them greatly.
Ok, what's your solution then? Because 1 of 2 people are going to be president in February of 2025 and one of them actually appointed the judges responsible for the decision while the other one didn't do enough to stop it (in your opinion) while he was VP.
Not sure you understand that expression if you think it applies here. I certainly didn't vote for anyone who was in favor of overturning Roe.
That's the problem with you people, you are convinced that electoral politics is the only way to affect change, when it really is one of the least effective ways.
Oh fuck off, nobody believes you're about to overthrow the government.
One of the least effective ways, second only to crying about it on the Internet I suppose.
I suppose you're not a big fan of the American Revolution then.
I just don't think you're about to overthrow the government from your mom's basement. But go ahead and prove me wrong, I suppose.
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Maybe he should've. It looked like a settled issue at that point with the duration of precedent. It might have been better if he did, during the brief window that supermajority existed, but that doesn't mean it happened on his watch. Those judges were put in office when he was out of office and could do nothing, and when the ruling happened it was entirely out of his hands.
Again, the issue of judges is something the Dems, including him, could have fixed in period of super majorities. Biden was part of at least two. VP during one. They could done in 1993 with Clinton, it was already well established that the constitution of the supreme Court was an issue and that the Republicans were trying to take control of it.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/ronald-reagans-big-impact-on-the-supreme-court
That's entirely on them. You know how ommission is still a lie? Well inaction works the same.
And that makes him just as bad as the people who actively campaigned for and carried this out. On the same level, with no discernable difference between them, and that's why we should let the guy who nominated the judges who actually did this back into office so he can carry out the vengeance he's promising. I expect that'll work out great. Virtually identical to another Biden term.
Yup. 1:1 identical.
Look. The Dems are not good enough. 100% agree. But there's still a vast difference between "inadequately good" and "actively malicious", and it's pretty clear which party is which here. There's no comparison between the people who failed to protect abortion, and the people who want to send women to jail for miscarriages and herd trans people into camps, and if the inadequately good party had held power through the trump years instead of the actively malicious party, we wouldn't have the fucked up dobbs ruling, we wouldn't have the fucked up IVF ruling, we wouldn't have Tennessee making it legal to refuse to conduct marriage.
The Dems are weak. The Republicans hate us and want us to suffer and die.
It's not that the Dems aren't good enough, it's that they are willfully letting it happen because the fear panders to their base. It's the pied piper strategy. One that worked oh so well for the Dems primary and Hilary if you recall.
So, again, you'd rather this gets significantly worse. Because that's what comes from letting the republicans win.
Also Biden's done a lot of positive things. I voted for "not Trump" and he's well exceeded expectations. There have also been significant disappointments; I wanted him to be better on Israel / Palestine, but that's no good reason to give the office to the guy who'll happily nuke Gaza before he fellates Putin.
No what I'm telling you is that you are actively participating in this vicious cycle. And yeah actually, being actively complicit in genocide (an actual legal term under international law) is indeed a good reason not to vote for someone.
Do you think that if you don't participate it goes away? Because people tried that in 2016, and it didn't go away, it got worse. You are participating in this world until you leave, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism but you still have to eat. The device you are writing your posts on most likely owns a share of a dead slave child. You can't live in this world and have totally clean hands. The best you can hope for is to steer it, a little bit, in a better direction, and sitting on your hands so you don't have to recognize the inevitable blood on them and get to feel pure ain't it, friend.
Don't worry, he also said:
So I'm sure he'll accept the blame for Trump's shit if he wins in November since sitting around sniffing your own farts is nearly as bad as actively destroying democracy.