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A college is removing its vending machines after a student discovered they were using facial-recognition technology
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2024
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Is there any rational reason why vending machines need to be that complicated?
Card readers / contactless payment were easy enough to "bolt on" to existing models (they had them when I was in college back in the stone age). So that's not a sufficient reason.
There are some "new" features I find useful, such as detecting when an item fails to vend. But those are pretty much just IR "tripwires" that detect the falling product; if it doesn't trip, then you get refunded or can make another selection.
I just cannot fathom why vending machines need any of this extra crap.
Feel free to enlighten me if you're in the know.
I can tell you why, as no one here seems to have used these. These are rooms of food items with no workers. Say 10 fridges and other items like apples, bananas, coffee machines microwaves etc sitting out. You walk up, grab what you want, use what you want and then check yourself out. It would be wrong to sell any user data but they did this because they were losing money trying to staff lunch rooms. It costs less to ditch warm/cooler food, and rather balance food loss off these items who know they are being filmed and will likely be expelled from the college for stealing. An example woukd be Gulf Coast State College
Instead of thinking vending machine, think food court with self checkout. (Saw this both in a FL colllege and also had this at a private company in TN)
The search for More Money
Space Balls 2
But when was now?
SOON!
It might be advertisements. Some newer gas stations/grocery stores have ads playing on the refrigerated section and when it detects someone on front of the door it will go clear or show a picture of what's behind the door.
It's completely ridiculous but it's where things are going now.
Yes. I saw a video about Japanese vending machines and they talked about these cameras being used to help with targeted advertising, either by knowing the person or identifying their demographics and selling to that.
We desperately need a CALM Act, but for the visual medium. Ugh. Things have been out of hand for too long now.
I fully agree. We're bombarded with enough distractions throughout the day. We don't need more right in front of our faces while we're trying to do chores.
Or even trying to relax on the beach
Makes sense why the machine owner would seek this information either for their own use or to sell to others in related fields. Maybe they can use it combined with records of product sales (vs. a very literal form of window-shopping) to identify areas more likely than others to bring consistent returns on the investment of placing, stocking and servicing the machines based on the age/gender statistics of nearby population centers.
Doesn't mean I'd want to be part of their dataset or would be comfortable allowing their installation in a facility where that decision was up to me though.
At this point it costs more money to make a "dumb" vending machine. The cost of a SBC is nothing, and it has more than enough horsepower to process transactions. All that extra horsepower + a 10 cent camera could be used to generate more money with facial recognition so naturally they're gonna spend the extra 10 cents + cost to drill a hole to do it. It's practically free to do it.
Accounts tied to school ID card? That way you can’t steal someone’s and use theirs, just polls a database and correlates your picture to your id image or something.
About the only use case I can think of for a school.
At least in the case covered by the article, they don't appear to be doing that:
Still possible if they're being less-than-perfectly-honest in that statement, they invest more into the technology or with another machine/company somewhere else.
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Oh definitely isn’t, just an example of how it can be used. I’ve seen it used in plants to administer safety gear so people don’t use a dozen gloves a week, even though it’s free and provided.
That statement sounds weasely as fuck.
The technology in that specific machine cannot identify a user, does not mean the machine does no store or transmit the footage to be processed on another machine or system that can.
The linked article includes this statement from Invenda, the manufacturer of the machines. Still have to rely on their truthfulness but they do address that specific point.
This definitely couldn’t backfire. Can’t think of a single reason in recent memory why someone’s face wouldn’t be visible… 🤔
So it defaults to a pin after if you forget to remove your sunglasses.