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wanna know what it might have looked like if millions of people that couldn't stomach voting Democrat did so?
every single election in my adult life.
when genocide is in the overton window all you can do is brace for impact.
USA is collapsing, and best we can do now is hope for a better future in its ashes. Delaying it for 20 years by letting the Democrats get away with more and more and more wasn't gonna change that.
Buddy, look at who are the other major players right now. Russia, China, and the EU. If you think for for a hot second that whatever rises out of this fire is going to be better, have I got news for you.
That is the objective for these types of people. A world where the EU and USA are isolated and China, Russia, Iran, etc. have free reign in 'their' backyards.
Seems to me like kind of a long pivot from
Why not just DO that?
I don't disagree that the shift in the Overton window is alarmingly far gone, that Dems are out of touch, or that the country is failing in real time. I disagree with the supercilious presentation of "political (in)action" by the people who ought to be easiest to motivate to go raise some hell.
Instead of punching all the way right, you're doing a big sad to your adjacent right in a huge lefty echo chamber. By letting perfect be the enemy of less worse we are only left with worse, and you still gotta live in it with us.
I don't disagree with you, my position is that I think people should have done damage mitigation by voting Harris in, but people that couldn't stomach supporting genocide are not my enemy.
I'm just betting that the people rushing to these threads to smugly feel superior for voting were also the ones trying to silence any opposition to Biden and Harris for their bad positions. The vibe in any discussion on Lemmy was "if you mention Palestine you're a Trump supporter" and those same pieces of shit are now saying "told you so" as if the way forward is to do LESS resistance.
That's what I'm talking about. Congrats, you voted and lost. Maybe don't fucking suppress actual progress the whole time between elections. If these people joined the left in holding Democrats accountable many elections ago, FUCKING GENOCIDE wouldn't have been a background policy common to both parties.
Now they're still finger pointing at the people who actually demand more from their politicians.
"Vote blue no matter who" got us here, THAT'S apathy.
right. I'm sure your self-righteousness, apathy and inaction are going to be a great asset when it comes to building a "better future".
Except that the result so far has only been the exact opposite of 'building' and 'progress'.
and that's a reason to stop trying altogether?
edit: a word
Re-read my reply. I'm agreeing with you.
lol and maybe you can take 5 minutes to vote on the second worst suggestion for how things should be run when someone thinks about it for you
there are more ways to take action than to vote.
I'm just as dissolutioned with the voting system as you are, but I'm also aware that sitting around complaining and acting like you know better than everyone else is only obnoxious accomplishes nothing.
either do literally anything at all to contribute, or go find an empty room to whinge into. I'm sure you'll enjoy the echo.
🤔 like protesting genocide and pressuring the party to select a progressive candidate? But that's illegal and everyone that did that were secret Trump supporters. You're just supposed to vote blue.