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[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Despite having a degree, which shows that you can do the job, employers still ignore your application, or reject you.

Now, college students have a thing called loans. Whether or not you have a job, those loan providers still want to be paid.

If the student can't pay the loans, and their family cosigned the loans, but they can't pay it, then thats a LOT of pressure from family, and everyone involved is going to have a bad time.

My degree is in game programming. I rolled a nat 1, I guess, cause all the gaming jobs are abruptly disappearing this year, and I just graduated last year. I've given up on pursuing a job for a game company, for now.

I've been in the red a couple times. I'm barely afloat as it is. During December and January, I was thinking about either suicide, or abandoning my life. Going on the road.

But I didn't have the strength to really do it.

I'm at about $130,000 in debt. I am working minimum wage. And entry level for my field is 60-90k.

You can imagine how gutwrenching it might be to be that close to having a liveable income, when you were raised poor, and you've only had minimum wage jobs your whole life. Now I'm back at a minimum wage job, and I have to pay ~$1000 a month in just school loans.

So...I can relate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Game dev is extremely hard to break into. I've been in and out of the industry for some time now.

If you're dead set on working in the industry I'd strongly advise going the platform integrations route.

  1. Gain experince working with API services and creating some C++/C# integration wrappers for UE and Unity (GoDot potentially too).
  2. Pick up some contract work doing API development outside the games industry to strengthen your knowledge and experince developing solutions.
  3. Find a game team that needs a platform(s) integration engineering role or a central publishing engineering role.
  4. Develop a host of solutions professionally for a year or two.
  5. Make the jump into the role you actually want.

This also gives you a ton of job flexibility in an industry that values knowledge breadth and has waves of job stability. Automation & tooling engineering, API development, services engineering, etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I am not at home to check more into this, but have you looked in the Industrial Automation industry? A lot of game devs ended up being a good fit. While I am hesitant to recommend my old employer, the software guys make good money and I still have a few friends over there. My reasons for quitting had nothing to do with the software department. Check out Dematic and some similar companies. Dematic was at least good for getting experience and I learned plenty.

It may not seem super glamorous at a glance, but it is worth a shot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Had a very similar experience, even with game dev. You should honestly just avoid game dev jobs but yeah, right now it's impossible to pivot out of game dev anyways. I wish I could say it gets better, and it will, but the game Dev job market will never be good. I graduated 4 years ago and still don't have a job in the field. They want you to be working on personal projects while working 40+ hours a week, probably because they will be working you 60 hours a week, lmao. We picked the worse major, I wish I wasn't scammed into serfdom at 19.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Having a degree does not mean you can do the job!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

In the USA, make sure you fill out a SAVE Plan, if you're really working minimum wage then you probably qualify for $0 Repayment and in 10 years it will be cancelled under the contract terms.

https://studentaid.gov/announcements-events/save-plan

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I did, but it only applies to federal loans. I'm currently paying "personal loans" which are student loans from other lenders.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure others have probably mentioned some options, like food stamps, and ai know it sucks, I was in a similar situation after graduation having been sold on the salaries my diploma would demand. One thing I wasn't aware of as an easy way to make a little bit of extra cash to help out, donating plasma. It's not something I want to do forever, but the extra quick cash can really make a difference. Best of luck, don't give up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's illegal to sell blood and plasma in a lot of places.