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Fediverse vs Disinformation

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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.

What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.

By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.


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  1. No disinformation
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@[email protected] is spreading a disinfo campaign trying to rebrand horrible ideas as "not nazi." I don't know where else to warn people about this. We are pushing for an instance ban, but the admin at SDF tends to be slow to reach.

Edit: Look at the modlog. I beg of any instance admin that sees the ban and removal reasons alone, including a ban reason of "tranny" , I hope to hell they break your instance rules. You should instance ban this moron to keep the spread down.

Edit 2: It has been more than a day now with not even a "We will look into it." kind of reply from the admin. It may be time to look into defederation. We are effectively abandoned.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This type of behavior you are engaging in right now with me is absolutely in bad faith.

If you think that jumping on me and accusing me of omitting instances from my mentions intentionally, and overall having a hostile tone towards me with zero provocation is "level-headed" or "good-faith" then we have some very different definitions of those terms. You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven't acted in good faith since you first replied to me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You have not acted level headed from the moment you replied to me, and frankly your behavior towards me has been extremely hostile. You haven’t acted in good faith since you first replied to me.

I mean, your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo:

"most tankies don't jump straight to the transphobia"

This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it.(ie they don't jump directly for transphobia but end up there eventually.

Is that the implication you intended? because I can see why that would piss off an admin on one of the instances with the biggest trans communities on Lemmy.

Either way you were literally posting about "the tankies" on this thread but then at the same time they "didn't cross your mind" when it came to asking people to address the original issue. Looks like bad faith behavior to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

your earlier comments in this exact thread look to be spreading disinfo

That's not disinformation at all

This seems to imply that some do jump straight to transphobia while others are still transphobic, but less obvious about it

You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You seem to be implying that this is impossible, which is a ridiculous thing to think

I was pointing out how a reading of the statement made could be that they were saying that all tankies are transphobic, some less open about it. That's a reading which is pretty inflammatory considering how a large portion of the trans community active on the fediverse is on "tankie" instances. The "tankie" instances also have had the strictest rules against transphobia out there.

So I would say that yes, the likelihood of all tankies' being transphobic (some sneaky about it) is near zero based on observable reality in this universe.

Also as discussed with draconicneo, that wasn't even the original intent behind the statement anyways, so I don't see why you need to rehash as if it was.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah the implication is that tankes don't gravitate towards transphobia which is why I think it is a troll who's fucking with us or trying to get attention or hurt people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'd agree that it looks like some Nazi trolling, the transphobia makes it stick out like a sore thumb.

It oftentimes takes me a few passes to get what people mean too. I was mostly trying to point out why I could see reasoning for her to come in hot in the thread.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah I guess I can kind of see how that can be misinterpreted now. I guess it goes to show how different people can read things completely differently in their head.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

ADHD brain go brrrrrrr.