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It is a kayfabe democracy. It has only oligarchical management, not democratic representation. No matter who wins the elections the policies are predetermined. Rooting for Kamala over Trump is no different than rooting for The Undertaker in Wrestlemania.
Sure sure, because under Kalama Harris this was how January was going to go too, yep.
under biden the US committed a genocide and started multiple wars
It was, yeah. The US was going to implode and decline no matter which person was appointed by your oligarchy. You didn't vote for any of the corporate board members who control your society and government in November. You also didn't actually have a choice, in kayfabe democracy the results are predetermined, much like all the elections in authoritarian carceral states.
No, I strongly disagree that Harris would have all DEI removed, all black history everything paused for the military, etc. Harris was not going to push for more tax breaks for the ultra rich. The project 2025 agenda was not going to be pursued under Harris. You may not approve of the Harris agenda, but they are not remotely comparable except through an absolutist all or nothing lens. Claiming they are the same is absurd.
Oh no the imperialist murder machine isn’t being woke anymore?!!?!
If only dropping all semblance of civility could end up hurting the machine... 🤞
It will end up alienating progressive forces that can now properly combat imperialism instead of cozying up to it
Death to rainbow imperialism. I’m in complete uncritical support of the empire going fully mask off. The mask deceived soft brained liberals
You are not understanding what I am saying. You do not live in a democracy. Harris had no chance of winning because your elections are fake. That is what I mean by results are predetermined, just like Wrestlemania. The US oligarchs fixed the elections during redistricting years before the election took place. During the ridiculous run up to the event nothing you did mattered. You live in a authoritarian oligarchy.
I won't deny the oligarchy thing, but I think it's a pretty hot take that the election was predetermined.
Occam's Razor... There are many other possibilities that seem more likely to me. Such as the Biden campaign floundering at the last second - which you could again argue was rigged, but once again, seems to be the less likely thing. You're suggesting that many people would be in on this conspiracy and that ALL of them would stay quiet. All the thousands of regular citizens who participate in the election process would also have to stay quiet. I know some of those people - they are regular people living regular lives. You're also supposing that this cohort of dishonest people would find it advantageous to spend a huge amount of resources on elections - it's pretty incredible how much effort goes into it, and if they already knew what the outcome was going to be, I would think they would act differently (perhaps you argue "that's the point, just to fool you").
We start to paint the picture of a conspiracy to control the American people when they are already under control because of capitalism. Everyone would have been under government control regardless of the election outcome. So I don't understand the supposed motivation for everyone working together to rig the election in Trump's favor. There are oligarchs who this election result does not favor as well, so I don't buy that it is just them pulling the strings. Oligarchs have influence no matter the administration, so why would they care to rig the election? Maybe a few of them would rig it to try to get power (see Musk), but it doesn't make sense that they would all be working together to rig it.
So I don't buy that the Biden and Kamala campaigns were in on it, and I don't buy that election workers were in on it.
What makes you so sure the election was rigged??