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What other possible reason would someone have to burn a book that is to some more important than their life. Either people dont care about it or become enraged. And just because you have right to do something doesnt mean you should. His actions have caused a lot of harm, also most likely his own death too.
For argument's sake, lets assume he had some positive reason for his actions. Has there been a single positive thing that has come from this? If you want to do good you need to think the consequences through and if you dont then you shouldnt do anything at all.
This is such a bullshit take with some not so subtle apoligism and blame shifting.
If burning a book causes a lot of harm in any way besides burn damage, the burner is hardly to blame but something else is fundamentally wrong, and he tried to make that very obvious to everyone with his own life at risk.
It's not just paper. It's a symbol. If you can't understand that then there's no hope for you in this world. You have a fundamentally flawed view of humanity if you can't see humans ascribe meaning to object, religious or not. It's the same reason burning a flag gets people upset.
You can argue it's irrational, because it obviously is, but humans are not rational creatures.
Now, go only do objective rational things somewhere else. You're words aren't worth anything. You're wasting your effort writing them.
You know that the Nazis in Germany burned a lot of books?
Your general statement would absolve them from their actions and intentions and instead shifts the blame onto the people who got persecuted by having their books burnt. Which later escalated to more than "just" burning books.
You cannot reduce it to the action itself and ignore all the context around it, especially not the intentions of the perpetrators.
And "other people shouldn't get offended if i insult and attack them constantly" is hardly acceptable in any other social context. E.g. i hope you would oppose insulting LGBTQ, Women, Ethnic minorities, disabled people...
And it should be obvious from these examples, that "it is just a joke" or "it is just an insult and i should be allowed to insult, because muuh free speech" is not a sincere argument, by the people spreading the hate. And their intention is never to keep the hate at verbal abuse, but to escalate it to physical violence.
Its not about the PHYSICAL book. Go ask any muslim if there is ANY situation where they would find it acceptable to burn their holy book in such way that guy did. And if he did it to "make it obvious there is something fundamendally wrong" why didnt he then MAKE IT OBVIOUS WHAT IS WRONG? Lets say that was his goal, then he failed so spectacularly words fail me.
I truly dont know what else to say about this if you still dont see what I mean.
And its not nice trying to frame what I said as apoligism or blame shifting. But if you TRULY think so then maybe you should back your arguments with facts instead of throwing words and hoping they stick. I know I can make mistakes and how else can I learn from them than if other people correct me. But i'm pretty sure i'm not wrong about this, but its not good to be blinded by your own surety.
He did it to incite hate. No sane person care about the paper.
I guess if you burn the american flag in Texas, screaming and complaining loudly about"freedom of speech", people will get annoyed, but 20 years ago it was illegal to do so.
So how long have you sided with the Nazis and fundamentalist Christians?
Because now you're excusing their book burning.
What a take.
You see the difference of an individual burning a book that he owns and leaving your books alone and the state burning all the books and forbidding you from accessing them... right?
...what does the state have to do with it? Fundamentalist Christians in the US burned books without state power. Nazis regularly encourage book burning and they haven't had state power in a few decades.
This Nazi, for instance, did not have state power behind him. Just a group of sycophants encouraging his antics.
If you're on the side of a book burning Nazi nut job, you're the bad guy.
What has the state to do with it? Everything. I'm all for nazis burning books, clothes or wood. As long as it's their own and they don't harm anyone. I don't know if he was a Nazi, he was full in his right to burn his own property. If you are worried about what someone does with his own shit, you might be the Nazi.
Right, so if I get a copy of your birth certificate, walk in front of your house after saying you shouldn't exist, and burn your birth certificate you're completely okay and wouldn't think it's a threat against you, right?
If I say 'i hate (insert your race)', and get material that is commonly associated with your local race and culture, and set it on fire in your front yard, you have no problems, right?
So the KKK did nothing wrong, according to your logic.
I'm not saying you really believe that, only a literal bigot would, but that's what you're arguing in order to justify your anti Muslim or anti religious hatred.
In my front yard? That's trespassing, and a fire code violation. Also getting a copy of my birth certificate without my permission is against the law.
You can make an oil painting of me and burn it away from any flammable material.
The kkk was wrong because of the lynchings, and the guy in the news story hasn't killed any Muslims, as far as I know. Quite the contrary, so Que would be saying QED if he weren't dead.
The scale makes all the difference here.
Yes, it's so much better when one group of bigots burn books than a larger group of bigots burn more books.
I guess this is the lesser evil you guys keep voting for, just a little book burning and hate speech, as a compromise.
Just a pro tip, if you are ever on the side of people burning books, you're in the wrong.
Right because your beloved CCP would never censor any books, right? lol
Most people don't live in the 1950s, given its now the 2020s. I get your society hasn't advanced in that time, China has.
Nah, I was referring to June 1989 and of course the Uyghur genocide in Xianjiang which is ongoing today. But the CCP can't even handle it being talked about online much less written about in actual printed books.
When they stop blocking history from the Internet of an entire country, then we can talk about censorship . Until then, you aren't very credible.
edit: for the dear reader, what I am doing here is basically just whataboutism, which I generally try to avoid. But my interlocutor has been all over Lemmy whatabouting in defense of the CCP, so I felt compelled to respond in kind.
The US' attempt at a color revolution by stealing military weapons and using them to massacre civilians is taught in school, and the many problems that caused some members of the uighur people to visit Afghanistan and come back attempting terrorist actions, as well as the subsequent investment in Xinjiang that has since eliminated the crushing poverty that caused those desperate people to turn to fundamentalist terrorism is also widely and publicly known.
When the US stops thinking their version of reality is correct when they famously run the world's largest and most prolific ministry of truth, then we can talk about censorship. Until then you people are too brainwashed to interact with the majority of the world.
I hope you guys get democracy soon.
Lol. Out of curiousity, do wumao get paid like weekly or is it per comment?
If you legitimately think everyone that disagrees with you, over half the planets population, are all paid trolls or bots... Well it's just terrible your country has no mental healthcare you can access without going broke and losing your job.
I sincerely hope you join the world in the 21st century soon. It has to be awful living in the 1950s.
You're not "everyone who disagrees with me", you're one of a few on Lemmy who are consistently CCP apologists. In this case, your being so open about it is kind of refreshing.
So I will keep pointing out your agenda when you comment on fraught geopolitical issues, such as this.
No, but you have a long history of claiming people on a website with a peak 40k user base are all bots and paid shills.
So I'm not every account you've ever talked to. There's not a global conspiracy targeting you. It's good you can still admit that in your paranoia.