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This guy is very very scared of Deepseek and all the potential malicious things it will do, seemingly due to the fact that it's Chinese. As soon as the comments point out that ChatGPT is probably worse, he disagrees with no reasoning.

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DeepSeek as a Trojan Horse Threat.

DeepSeek, a Chinese-developed Al model, is rapidly being installed into productive software systems worldwide. Its capabilities are impressive-hyper-advanced data analysis, seamless integration, and an almost laughably low price. But here's the problem: nothing this cheap comes without a hidden agenda.

What's the real cost of DeepSeek?

  1. Suspiciously Cheap Advanced models like DeepSeek aren't "side projects." They take massive investments, resources, and expertise to develop. If it's being offered at a fraction of its value, ask yourself-who's really paying for it?

  2. Backdoors Everywhere DeepSeek's origin raises alarm bells. The more systems it infiltrates, the more it becomes a potential vector for mass compromise. Think backdoors, data exfiltration, and remote access at scale-hidden vulnerabilities deliberately built in.

  3. Wide Adoption = Global Risk From finance to healthcare, DeepSeek is being installed across critical systems at an alarming rate. If adoption continues unchecked, 80% of our systems could soon be compromised.

  4. The Trojan Horse Effect DeepSeek is a textbook example of a Trojan horse strategy: lure organizations with a cheap, powerful tool, infiltrate their systems, and quietly map or control them. Once embedded, reversing the damage will be nearly impossible.

The Fairytale lsn't Real

The story of DeepSeek being a "low-cost, side project" is just that-a fairytale. Technology like this isn't developed without strategic motives. In the world of cyber warfare, cheap tools often come at the highest cost.

What Can We Do?

Audit your systems: Is DeepSeek already embedded in your critical infrastructure?

Ask the hard questions: Why is this so cheap? Where's the transparency?

Take immediate action: Limit adoption before it's too late. The price may look attractive, but the real cost could be our collective security.

Don't fall for the fairytale.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I do not buy that USA sh#t about China anymore. USA is fascist nationalist country that yesterday publicly started setting up a concentration camp in Guantanamo. I do not trust any of those big companies that were present at their Fuhrer's inauguration, and that includes OpenAI. F*CK the USA, let China in!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

USA is fascist nationalist country

That's not even close to true. Certain elements within the US may fit that description, but it hardly describes the government, and is a much better description for the CCP.

yesterday publicly started setting up a concentration camp in Guantanamo

It's been there for decades. Did you miss the entire "War on Terror"?

let China in!

Finally something we agree on. Instead of tariffs and whatnot, we should just produce better products. AI should be all about getting better productivity from your populace, bridging the wage gap w/ countries like China that can afford to pay similarly qualified people much less. If Chinese EVs are cheaper than American EVs and meet our safety standards, let's buy them. If Chinese LLMs are cheaper than American LLMs and similar quality, let's use them! Source the best products from wherever they're produced, and if China wants to subsidize it, let them. But don't go all-in on any one source, because you don't want to get locked in.

I have absolutely no idea (that's not true, I think I fully understand Trump's narcissistic reasons for things) why Trump seems intent on bringing low-paying jobs back to the US, outside a handful of important industries where supply chain disruption could pose a legitimate national security risk, but those problems can be solved by the US government agreeing to source parts domestically despite them costing more to ensure we always have the capacity we need. I think it's just him trying to appeal to blue collar workers, instead of investing in helping them get better jobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yesterday publicly started setting up a concentration camp in Guantanamo

It’s been there for decades. Did you miss the entire “War on Terror”?

You have obviously not been following the news. Or are you like that crazy president they elected who equals illegal immigrants with terrorists?

https://www.bbc.com/news

US President Donald Trump has ordered the construction of a migrant detention facility in Guantanamo Bay which he said would hold as many as 30,000 people. He said the facility at the US Navy base in Cuba, which would be separate from its high-security military prison, would house "the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You have obviously not been following the news

That's true. My family has been taking turns getting sick pretty much since inauguration day, so I haven't been following the news very closely.

That said, looking over the articles, it seems this is people being picked up by coast guards, as in, people trying to enter the country illegally. That's obviously not the same as terrorists, but it doesn't seem that they're exporting people from US soil to Guantanamo, which is what seems to be implied by your comment.

Also, he's not sending people there yet, it's merely under construction. I tend to ignore what Trump says and instead look at what he does. Ideally we'd dismantle Guantanamo Bay instead of building it up, but I guess we'll see what he does with it. It's not like I can do anything else about it in the meantime...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

wasn't it USA that was spying even on their closest allies?

there was an expression about this… tip of my tongue: ___ ___ pot ___ call ___

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

The five eyes group all have rules against spying on their own citizens. So they each spy on each other for each other

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

ah! thanks 🦆🦆go:

the pot calling the kettle black