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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First of all, the kids in this comic are clearly not teenagers, so you need to decide whether or not you're talking about the comic since you were one post ago.

Secondly, you have not even acknowledged that these book banning laws will end up imprisoning librarians. It's all about how kids, if they are somehow magically aware of it, can bypass libraries to read certain specific books that are banned.

Cool, now how do they get access to Gender Queer or The Bluest Eye? Because those are banned too and will also put librarians in prison and they are not in the public domain. How about And Tango Makes Three, the often-banned picture book for children, which is a true story about two male penguins in a zoo that adopted a baby chick. A librarian letting a kid have access to a book about penguins could end up in prison for it.

Because as it is, you seem to be implying that the only banned book of any significance is 1984 and if librarians get imprisoned for letting someone under 18 read it, good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First of all, the kids in this comic are clearly not teenagers, so you need to decide whether or not you're talking about the comic since you were one post ago.

It's kinda hard to tell tbh because not all kids reach their growth spurts at the same time, I'm just assuming that based on his interest in 1984, which contains rather mature themes that require a certain level of mental development to even appreciate. If these are preteens, I would question how they even heard about the book why they'd be interested in it, or whether they aren't just being used as pawns by an adult trying to make a political statement.

Secondly, you have not even acknowledged that these book banning laws will end up imprisoning librarians. It's all about how kids, if they are somehow magically aware of it, can bypass libraries to read certain specific books that are banned.

You said yourself that this law you mentioned is still under consideration, so everything concerning that is basically speculation until it has actually been passed.

Cool, now how do they get access to Gender Queer or The Bluest Eye? Because those are banned too and will also put librarians in prison and they are not in the public domain. How about And Tango Makes Three, the often-banned picture book for children, which is a true story about two male penguins in a zoo that adopted a baby chick. A librarian letting a kid have access to a book about penguins could end up in prison for it.

Because as it is, you seem to be implying that the only banned book of any significance is 1984 and if librarians get imprisoned for letting someone under 18 read it, good.

Well, all I'll say is that there's a reason the artist chose 1984 and not one of those other books (even though the one about penguins would probably have made an even better contrast to watching animal cruelty videos).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You said yourself that this law you mentioned is still under consideration, so everything concerning that is basically speculation until it has actually been passed.

Are you shitting me? I was talking about a specific law in Indiana about public librarians that would affect my wife if passed (and every indication is that it will pass). Such laws have been passed all over the country already regarding school librarians.

https://apnews.com/article/book-bans-libraries-lawsuits-fines-prison-0914fa6cbb2a99b540cbbd28a38179b4

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/school-librarians-banned-books-investigation-texas-rcna161444

https://www.infodocket.com/2023/05/18/washington-post-school-librarians-face-a-new-penalty-in-the-banned-book-wars-prison/

It's even already a law about school librarians in Indiana:

https://wsbt.com/news/operation-education/educators-librarians-criminal-prosecution-level-6-felony-controversial-books-teachers-transparent-state-law-obscene-harmful-minors-ban-library-indiana

But you being fine with librarians getting imprisoned for corrupting the vulnerable youth with evil, evil books is noted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Did you actually read these articles, or are you just trying to stoke a panic?

The first one explicitly says that "no librarian or educator has been jailed" (as of April 9 last year), while the second details an apparently extremely far right LEO in friggin' TEXAS (which I assume is likely on the forefront of these efforts) spending a whole TWO YEARS gathering evidence to indict a couple of small town librarians for making these books available, with nothing to show for it (because the county judge declined to even hear the case).

So if Texas can't even indict anyone for these "crimes", what makes you think that Indiana will?