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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

“The people in the Federation exist in a bubble of safety and happiness, but there are outsiders to that sphere of the Federation—surrounded by the Dominion, the Founders, the Klingons [of this era], the [Romulan secret police] Tal Shiar, that don’t have the same moral relativity that we do. They would see [the Federation] destroyed to fit their moral relativism,” Kazinsky argued. “People need to understand why people don’t like the idea [of Section 31], but it hasn’t changed the idea.”

This kind of logic implies that stooping down to barbarism is OK as long as you are hypocritical about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

To be honest, that's always been the core argument.

I don't know where the line is - obviously, the morphogenic virus in DS9 was beyond the pale, but is it wise to expect hostile neighbours to be won over by sunshine and rainbows?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There's a very clear line between having a military and intelligence services and having a MKULTRA-era-CIA-in-space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago