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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

What I mean by all of this is that israel manufactured the conditions to enact their genocide, and that escalation would’ve happened either way because they’re not able to be bargained with.

They're clearly open to being bargained with, as that's exactly what the incoming Trump admin did to extend hostilities in Gaza through the beginning of his new term. But they can't be negotiated with in Gaza because Gaza residents have no cards to play.

I think it’s easier to have a hindsight-accurate armchair QB backseat approach to this than to make those decisions of what to do in the moment.

I agree. And I'm not citing Oct 7th as some kind of policy blunder on the part of Palestine's political leadership nearly so much as I'm using it as an example of the vaunted guerrilla insurgency tactics falling completely flat. The idea that you can outfight an adversary with every economic, organizational, and technological advantage seems embedded in American consciousness. Vietnam and Afghanistan are these David v Goliath stories of the little guy beating the military behemoth. But they neglect the decades of blood and tears shed along the way. What you have in these territories aren't "winners" so much as "survivors".

Fighting back is expensive and extremely risky. Its a move of last-resort, not a determent strategy or a power play.