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Misogyny should be added to list of no prejudices since it was common on the previous community.
Also I’ll repeat my request for removing ‘no tankie behavior’ because ‘tankie’ has no consensus definition which makes it a divisive term. In this community I’ve seen several people describe all Marxist Leninists as ‘tankies’. I strongly dislike sectarianism and I would like ML’s to feel welcome here. Any posts that are harmful to the community should just be moderated on the basis of its harm.
I'll also say I'm in support of removing the "no tankie" rule. I'm all for anti-authoritarianism, but with how often tankie gets misued on Lemmy at large having the rules specifically use it always kinda felt like just a potential avenue for removing general left-wing stuff. Not that it has been used for that on 196 necessarily, or that it will be in this community, but it still feels like tankie is a loaded enough term that just having more specific rules is better.
Like you said sectarianism sucks, and right now in the US at least it I'd say solidarity is more important than ideological differences. I'm super anarchist, but if a ML is also attending protests, building mutual aid, and fighting for immigrants and trans people then who am I to exclude them when currently the more support the better. (There are arguments for why this viewpoint is wrong or right, and whether solidarity with authoritarianism in fighting existing power structures is counter-intuitive or not, but it also doesn't feel like those arguments apply as much in something like 196 imo.)
(Also 100℅ agree on adding misogyny. Obviously the list of prejudices isn't exhaustive or anything but misogyny is a big one and it feels like it should definitely be there.)
I prefer the "no tankie" rule, all it means is if you identify as tankie, you are not welcome. Which filters out a lot of problematic behavior.
Might be worth adding more examples of bigotry to that rule, yes. Good shout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
I am personally not in favor of removing the "no tankie" rule. Marxist leninists are by definition or at the very least in practice auth. It is true that the term has been used by libs against other socialists however, which is annoying. It's also true that no authoritarianism would include marxist leninism, however specifically calling it out has merits as well.
I feel like tankie is a very precise term for the kind of "communists" that cheer when people get run over by tanks. Therefore, a good test to see if someone just cheers for "imperialism but red" or genuinely cares about liberation.
The term is very commonly not used that way though, adding it to the rules will drive away leftists that also don’t like people getting run over by tanks.
Yeah, I've seen the term applied more broadly than MLs even, and agree that 'no tankie behavior' should be removed.
Just having 'no authoritarian behavior' should suffice anyway right?