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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don't care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal "Chinese spy," while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

“This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren’t controlled by the same few oligarchs,”

So they move (and apparently willingly provide more access to their info than they already need to) to a platform that is controlled by a different few oligarchs, as a treat.. 🙄

Also, you say we're right here, but the number of people already here praising this shit* because they're either tankies simping for faux communists, or simply too indoctrinated to realise that you don't have to choose one, and can oppose both oppressive states (which use almost identical tactics), is pretty fucking gross.

*and before they descend on me with their bullshit and excuses and their throwing of marginalised people under the bus for the sake of maintaining their own black and white view of the world - yes Chinese and American people communicating and breaking down barriers is good. However the idea that this can honestly and freely be done on their oppressive state controlled media, any more than it can on ours, or that one is somehow less oppressive than the other, is a joke, and so are the people ignoring the fact that both states have equally terrible mass surveillance and control over our communications.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

They are just kids saying fuck you to their parents, same as it ever was since before the dawn of humanity.:-) Hopefully after awhile then move to a more sensible platform. This is our opportunity to help build it and make it welcoming enough to want to join...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oligarch doesn't mean a rich person, it means a person who controls the country with their wealth. Even the richest people in china are still at the governments behest, not the other way around like in America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Lmmfao, who do you think runs the Chinese government, the workers?

Anyway, thanks for providing an example of exactly the kind of bullshit and excuses I was referring to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

https://redsails.org/losurdo-on-china/

Read that to learn about how wealth is not able to be translated into political power in China like it is in capitalist controlled countries. @[email protected] wasn't talking out of their ass - you are just ignorant on this subject.

Having to post this Losurdo essay for the second time today because westerners can't help themselves but talk absolute nonsense about China anytime it comes up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

With a Vanguard party made up of nearly 10% of the population... uh yeah, kinda. Not in a fully idealised sense, but certainly in enough of one that billionaires actually get prosecuted for their crimes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

they execute billionaires from time to time. when's the last time a western country did that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

most western countries are civilised enough to not allow capital punishment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

Lol. Lmao even. They kill millions of Arabs and Asians just for fun

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes unlike the barbaric yellow hordes, their western betters have the civility to only perform executions in the streets, prior to arrest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Extrajudicial street executions happens in Baghdad and Boston, both are done by white supremacist thumbs exported from the USA

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yes, the workers indeed run the country, with over 99 million people in the party