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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's shrimply not true. The numbers Tesla releases are heavily cooked.

Had a quick look around but I didn't manage to find any numbers that weren't either using Tesla'd numbers, or guessing.

But it's pretty well known that FSD sucks (have been in a car using it .. terrifying af) and that it'll turn itself off before an accident to pass accountability to the driver.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I love how this keeps getting repeated by everyone everywhere

it’ll turn itself off before an accident to pass accountability to the driver.

But both Tesla (5 seconds) and the NHSTA (30 seconds) count any incident where a L2 system was on before the accident as having happened with the system active. So no, they do not use it for that purpose.

You know that video going around a few weeks ago where some dude with FSD on darted across the rode into a tree? Well, he got the cars data, and it turns out it was disabled due to enough torque on the wheel which is one of the ways you disable it. He probably nudged the wheel too hard by mistake and disabled it, or there was a mechanical failure which disabled it, but the accident counted as FSD in the report he got from Tesla as ON even though it was OFF at the time of the accident when he started going out of his lane.

So please just stop it with that nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I may be buying the foolishness of the masses, but your anecdotes are only as good as mine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Which part don't you like?

I could source the crash report and a video explaining what likely happened, but if you simply don't believe that Tesla truly stands by the 5s rule in their self reported data even with the crash report, then that's another matter entirely.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what about this one? https://youtu.be/V2u3dcH2VGM

I don't know anything about self driving, but I can't imagine why it would turn off right before a crash instead of keeping the breaks held

(also I know the drivers is a total idiot and it's 100% their fault, I just want to know why it turned off)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I imagine the driver was startled and pressed the brake or turned the steering wheel, either of which will cancel FSD