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A massive increase in defense spending is set to hit Greenland in a move that would allow the Artic territory to fortify its military’s strength.

Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241225164949/https://www.rawstory.com/greenland-2670671719/

SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2Fgreenland-2670671719%2F

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'd prefer not to be at war with Russia, thanks

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Just bc you aren't on the battle field doesn't mean you aren't at war with Russia. The US and NATO are just using Ukrainians to fight their war

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because Ukrainians don't have agency and only want to keep their own culture and language because some empire tells them to /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I didn't say that at all

You can both be exploited and have agency. The actions of the Ukrainian government also does not reflect the will of its people anymore to be clear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Russia could end this fight any day it wants.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By leaving and ceasing all military action, right? And what would happen the next day?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What would happen the next day?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The resumed and emboldened massacre of eastern Ukranians by the banderite coup government, same as the decade that led up to this, except without even the tissue-thin veneer of western disapproval

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly. The Eastern Ukranians who got sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites and petitioned Russia for protection will be slaughtered wholesale, man woman and child, and your only response is "well they shouldn't have thrown in with the orcs for protectionsmuglord" Perhaps the US-backed nazi government shouldn't have spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions then? Just a thought.

Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It's no wonder you're on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites

Citation needed

petitioned Russia for protection

Citation needed

US-backed

Citation needed

nazi government

Citation needed

spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions

Citation needed

Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It's no wonder you're on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders

Which statement of mine makes you arrive at such a conclusion?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I can't understand how you'd need a citation for all of those. It seems some parts of your position rely on them happening, maybe on interpreting them differently, but are you really calling every single point there into question? I guess here's a handful of sources slopped out about it.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2016/07/21/you-dont-exist/arbitrary-detentions-enforced-disappearances-and-torture-eastern https://www.crisisgroup.org/content/conflict-ukraines-donbas-visual-explainer https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If you're in the US, you already are lol

But I'm not sure what that has to do with the fact that NATO should be dissolved

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I like that you're sharing your opinion. I just want more information about it, so I can either agree or disagree. What about dissolving NATO would be "Good for humanity"?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not in the US

It has to do with the fact that my country exists because NATO protects it. Russia violates our airspace regularly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Which country is that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

my country exists because NATO protects it.

Then "your country" shouldn't exist. Its just a US vassal at that point anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As opposed to the Russian vassal it would've been if not?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Far better if the NATO backed coup that dissolved the USSR hadn't happened

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

k man

All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart. NATO support before Russia invaded Ukraine was decreasing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

America and 18 other countries invaded Russia in 1918 to restore the monarchy, kicking off a century of relentless aggression. They aren't the ones who started this cycle and they're not the ones with the power to stop it. We are.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

There would probably be a manufactured excuse to keep it around. It seems like that’s already happening with the hyping up of a potential conflict with China.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart

Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90's they were refused?

What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?

Because it exists to be aggressive toward designated enemies of the US

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90's they were refused?

Do you have a source for this? I can't find any reference apart from a random interview given by Putin.

What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?

It was in '54. It's hard to know why it was rejected since all those conversations are classified, but publically it was stated that Russia's lack of democracy was the cause. I'm sure US hatred of communism had an influence.

Though I'm not sure that USSR had honest intentions of being a long term member instead of using it as opportunity to sabotage the treaty that would be negative for their interests in the works at the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I'm sure US hatred of communism had an influence.

You think?

Anyway. Merry Christmas Lib