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[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's in the bios, it's a pcie device that windows allows to inject root level code into your environement, you have to turn it off and hope nothing ever spoofs that pcie id because that's a permanent hardware rootkit into your pc like EFI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can this "feature" be turned off on Windows?

Edit: nvm, I read the article

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

You can turn it off in the bios, but windows will still execute code with root privileges from devices with the right PCI and USB ID As far as I know, that one cannot be turned off. I assume it is also a police/intel backdoor for PCs with secure boot and encryption turned on.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's in the bios, it's a pcie device that windows allows to inject root level code into your environement

What. The. Fuck. Are they the only one to install their crap so deep?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No my ROG board does the same.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ROG is Asus.

Also I don't think I've ever had this issue with my previous, nor my current rog boards. I never use their drivers CD so maybe that helps

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just because a the brand is owned by them doesnt mean they do the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Or we could all be informed consumers and... research products before we buy them to avoid these kinds of issues.

I'd never buy an Asus product. I hear they're a nightmare when it comes to customer service, so in avoiding them, I avoid that problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I swore myself to never buy an ROG PSU (very noisy fan. Never had an issue with my seagate one being noisy) or a motherboard (armory crate).
Are other (gaming) brands also so shit to have me reset all settings before updating the firmware? e.g Gigabyte, AsRock, EVGA?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Not particularly, no, I'm just the type to not step on the rotting plank on the bridge. I'd rather step over it.

I've had zero issues with Gigabyte and ASRock. I have an Asrock board in now and I used a Gigabyte in my last system. Stable and fine.

EVGA, I dunno. I don't buy Nvidia or need the pedigree, I'm a Linux user who sticks to Ryzen CPUs and AMD, but I hear they're top shelf quality from others.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

ROG is model line of Asus, not a secondary brand. ROG is to Asus what F-series trucks are to Ford.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Haha no. My work computer is HP and has similar shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Msi tomahawk has it too.

Gotta go in the bios and make sure your motherboard isn't "helping" with drivers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which model is that?
Doesnt sound like an Elite/Pro model.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dont know the exact model, but i think it is marketed B2B specifically. It advertises its "wolf security" on boot, which according to HP "offers hardware-enforced security layers, from motherboard to cloud, to prevent and contain malware, phishing, ransomware, and remote access attacks. It also provides solutions for patching, privileged access, remote management, incident recovery, and print security."

So it is something that allows HP access on the BIOS level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

If it's b2b it sounds like elite or pro model.
But this wolf thingie is something about securing something.
We usually remove it and it doesnt appear new installations.