politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
view the rest of the comments
Imagine believing mining up a rare earth metal and shipping it across the globe is somehow better for the planet than adding a short range battery.
You people are a cult. You just imagined some coal roller because I said full EVs are dumb. It's unhinged shit
Lithium is not a rare earth metal.
You mean like the palladium used in the catalytic converters installed in 100% of HEVs, PHEVs, and ICE vehicles (and not at all in BEVs?)? The palladium that is one of the rarest metals on earth? The same palladium where 40% of world supply comes from Russia?
You mean that kind of rare earth metal, right?
Yes that one. Far better used distributed in smaller batteries than being used by a few rich people.
Palladium isn’t used in batteries — it’s used in catalytic converters, which aren’t needed in EVs.
ICE vehicles use more rare earth metals over its lifetime than a typical BEV will use.
PHEVs have the same batteries as EVs, just smaller ones, which need the same rare earth metals.
Yeah, and it'll be distributed a lot more people. You only need 100 miles of so of range for every day use and you eliminate any range of long distance issues. The only draw back is increased maintenance on the gas engine. A trade off many would be happy with vs most people who don't want to go near a charging station.
Imagine mining (pumping really) up crude oil and shipping it across and ocean, then processing it into automotive gas, then shipping (with a diesel truck) to thousands of small locations across the country, where all those gas powered vehicles will have to drive to (burning more gas) just to get gas.
Don't pretend that a lifetime of fuel for an ICE car does less damage to the environment than an EV. It's a misdirection, not an argument.
Yeah because most drivers are using gas every day in their PHEV right? The vast majority of driving is in the electric driving and you don't have to deal with charging stations on the occasional long trip or specialty charging which is a primary blocker to adoption.
But yeah I'm sure everyone will have figured out how to get charging stations for everyone who doesn't own a single family home or some local coop owned changing system at home.
You people have shunned a highly effective opportunity to reduce emissions and get battery vehicles in there hands of more people for your little cult.
You know P stand for "Plug-in" right? You either plug them in to charge, or they charge off the ICE, which is burning gas. Arguing for PHEV, but then stating...
... Is kinda counter productive.
Not sure who "you people" are. I just wanted to point out that most of the complaints about EVs are equally valid for ICEs, but people seem to forget that Ford Raptors aren't sourced by local mom and pop organic farms when they complain about the global supply chain for EVs.
Sorry, your psychic powers leave much to be desired.