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Texas’ Border Stunt Is Based on the Same Legal Theory Confederate States Used to Secede (www.thedailybeast.com)

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A clash between Texas and the Biden administration over who controls the Texas-Mexico border continues to escalate this week as federal officials once again demanded the state give Border Patrol agents access to a park that is a popular corridor for migrants to enter the United States illegally.

This comes in response to a recent Supreme Court decision, where the court allowed federal officials to dismantle a wire barrier along the border, prompting a legal battle initiated by Texas. Texas argued that this action, aimed at aiding migrants, infringes on state sovereignty and damages Texas security measures.

In response to this decision, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott released a letter arguing that Texas has a right to control the border and that it supersedes federal government control. Abbott’s accusation that the federal government has breached the Constitution by having “broken the compact between the United States and the States” is almost identical to South Carolina’s 1860 declaration of secession.

Furthermore, Abbott’s letter espouses the fringe theory of constitutional law known as “compact theory,” popularized by Confederate states during the Civil War era and supported by Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While I do agree that people tend to ignore the "normal" people who wil lbe impacted by this: The reason many of those wealthy individuals are wealthy exists in other states. If they are given the ultimatum of "Get the fuck back in the US or we are claiming spacex" then they very rapidly are "punished".

That said: the "Texas is really purple" argument holds a lot less water than people tend to claim. Ever since 2020 (really before it, but that was the big push) there has been a strong push for "democrats" to move to Texas. Because... it is so much cheaper because they aren't paying for social infrastructure and they get a lot of the NIMBY benefits while pretending they are "good people". LOTS of DINOs. They might not be full alt-right magats but there is a reason that the blatant gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement doesn't have much pushback.

That isn't to say that there aren't large numbers of people in Houston and the like who just have no mobility and are increasingly worried they will literally become slaves. But also understand that places like Austin would very much vote for a "moderate Bush-era republican" if the option arose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If they are given the ultimatum of “Get the fuck back in the US or we are claiming spacex” then they very rapidly are “punished”.

Sure, that hurts Elon Musk. I would be interested to know how many of the Republican politicians in red states actually have a majority of their wealth and assets in blue states. Sanctions have to hurt the people in control of the red state governments to even be worthwhile.

Because… it is so much cheaper because they aren’t paying for social infrastructure and they get a lot of the NIMBY benefits while pretending they are “good people”. LOTS of DINOs. They might not be full alt-right magats but there is a reason that the blatant gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement doesn’t have much pushback.

I'm not convinced this disqualifies them from our sympathy if a hypothetical secession attempt by their state government causes them undue misery. I've been looking into people moving to Texas.

This is one of the articles I found. It seems like most of the people moving to Texas are going to vote Republican. I would like to read the articles you've seen on the topic as I couldn't find much on Democrats moving to Texas other than this one. At the end it mentions one family moved to Austin and they seem progressive. It's an interesting demographic shift regardless.

But also understand that places like Austin would very much vote for a “moderate Bush-era republican” if the option arose.

Again I don't have a lot knowledge about Democrats in Texas. It seems like if that were true they would run some neo-conservatives that were like Bush. These are the candidates that the Democratic Party is fielding against Ted Cruz in Texas.

They seem progressive, on the surface anyway. Especially this guy:

“I’m a progressive and I do not apologize for it,” Gutierrez said. “That’s the way we win in November, not by moving to the middle, but by inspiring every Democrat in this state to go get new voters and go meet these people.”

I would interested to read any polling date or news articles you've seen about it to be more informed on this.