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This is the official short film adaptation of the classic video game Papers Please.

...made in 2018 by a Russian team. Way before the whole Ukraine war thing, you understand. ...though I'd obviously love to hear where they are now.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (9 children)

That's definitely fair, but there is the argument that the largest source of change for major powers is through harming their economies.

Sort of like, I like the artistry from this person from X nation, but by giving them money, I am indirectly helping fuel the economy of X nation, therefore giving their goverment less incentive to change existing behavior.

The problem is that in order to achieve that collective impact, a whole lot of innocent parties who have no support for or active hostility for the existing regime are also badly impacted. Usually individuals will greatly suffer before the political or structural systems will ever change.

So it's a bit of a bind. Support Russian media, comes with the side effect of supporting the Russian regime, at least indirectly from their income flowing into taxes. End of the day, it's a choice to make.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'd love to see some data backing this argument up. Doesn't seem like years of sanctions on Russia, Iran, or North Korea had a sufficient impact to cause any change. Harming the economy can just as likely be used to reinforce the regime by creating a common enemy and blaming them for the people's hardships (like North Korea does with the USA) On the other hand, use of force was pretty effective in causing change in Nazi Germany or Japan.

Of course it's not all straightforward. Change by force can have negative results, and change by economic means can have positive ones. That's why I'd love to see the data, if there is any

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Doesn’t seem like years of sanctions on Russia, Iran, or North Korea had a sufficient impact to cause any change.

Seems like it made them more insular, more self-sufficient, and more hostile to future diplomatic entreties.

Change by force can have negative results, and change by economic means can have positive ones

What if, instead of trying to extort or kill a nation's residents in order to force them to adopt your preferred foreign policy, you simply afforded them an opportunity for peaceful coexistence?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, because that's what Putin wants?

let us know when you come back to reality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Putin wouldn't be President of Russia if the US and the USSR had been able to settle their differences without a 60 year long series of proxy wars and regime changes. Neither would Trump, for that matter.

You played yourselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is in power specifically because they settled their differences and Yeltsin was such a drunk idiot that it pushed people to vote for someone who promised stability and prosperity. Putin wasn't very anti-West until the 2010s. I'm old enough to remember when there was mild talk about Russia joining NATO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeltsin was such a drunk idiot

Backed by the US in a coup against the Russian government

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago
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