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Here you go, a "real" source. He said there were more bullet ballots than there likely really are, but there's still a really suspiciously high number of them. How is this not at least worth investigating?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The key flaw in this idea that fake bullet ballots put Trump over the top ignores the fact that Republicans won House and Senate seats as well.

If it were bullet ballots, we would have seen split tickets where Trump won but Dems won House and Senate seats at that did NOT happen.

So, no, this is all specious reasoning from the start.

Look at the Abortion bill in Arizona:

https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Proposition_139,_Right_to_Abortion_Initiative_(2024)

Yes - 2,000,287 - 61.61%
No - 1,246,202 - 38.39%

3,246,529 votes cast.

Now look at President:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona

Republican - Donald Trump - 1,770,242 - 52.2%
Democratic - Kamala Harris - 1,582,860 - 46.7%
Green - Jill Stein - 18,319 - 0.5%
Libertarian - Chase Oliver - 17,898 - 0.5%

3,389,319 votes cast.

There were 142,790 more votes cast for President than in the abortion race, but Trump beat Harris by 187,382 votes.

Even if all 142K overvotes cast in the Presidential race were fake bullet ballots, Trump STILL would have won by 44,592 votes.